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  •  The USA is doing exactly the same thing . . .. (5+ / 0-)
    First, a country needs to discover a natural resource that can be exploited regardless of consequences to the environment.
    as far as the Obama-led fracking boom is concerned . . .

    (but hey, I like picking on Canada as much as anything, provided I'm not sensitive to the hypocrisy involved on this particular issue!)

    •  I loathe Harper as much as anyone (4+ / 0-)

      and I find the characterization of Harper as a 'bully, intolerant of criticism ...' to be dead on

      However - it is the height of hypocrisy of an american to point a finger at ANY foreign country and call it 'rogue', muchless a 'rogue petrostate' - to be clear, I am not talking about Nikiforuk, who is clearly qualified to talk on this -

      I think the diarist does a gross disservice in pointing to Harper as the 'bogey man' here - XL / Northern Pipeline / Athabasca Tar Sands have been in development since the mid 70's in full cooperation with US and multinational Oil companies

      While the US and Canada have roughly the same per capita energy consumption (about twice that of UK) - with a population of 10 times that of its northern neighbor, the US has a much stronger ability to affect energy policy

      Yes, Stephen Harper is horrible - much more so than this diary illuminates - but pointing a finger at him and saying "there is the bad guy" is totally off base imo

      "I want to keep them alive long enough that I can win them to Christ," - Rick Warren, Professional Greed Driven Scumbag

      by josephk on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 08:00:15 AM PDT

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      •  Yes indeed, I alluded to this in a different (1+ / 0-)
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        Deward Hastings

        but here's a few more details:

        Pierre Trudeau's government decided that they needed a window into the oil industry in order to assess and control Canada's valuable natural resources. The Canadian Parliament passed the Petro-Canada Act in 1975 establishing a Crown Corporation to meet these targets. Many in the Alberta Oil industry felt that this was an unwelcomed intrusion into the business world and campaigned to have Petro-Canada and its activities restricted.

        The largest source of Oil in Canada was in the Alberta Tar Sands which was much more difficult and expensive to get the oil out f then a normal well hole. in 1978, Petro-Canada invested in Alberta's Syncrude which became the largest producer of the Tar Sands and held a 12 percent ownership position.

        In 1979 Petro-Canada bought Pacific Petroleum, an Alberta based coming and then partner with Chevron, Gulf and Mobil to explore the Hibernia oilfield in the Atlantic off the coast of Newfoundland. Over then next 5 years Petro-Canada continued to expand its exploration and drill operations well growing it's retail gas operations across the country. In 1981 Petro-Canada bought Petrofina, in 1983 BP Canada and in 1984 discovered the Terra Nova oilfield off the east coast

        link

        IOW, a Liberal government laid much of the groundwork for Canada now being a "Rouge Petro State"  (with rouge being a play on words referring to PetroCanda's colors . .. .  and as I just read on Wikipedia PetroCanada was nicely doubled as "Pierre Elliot Trudeau Rips Off" Canada - a common feeling in Western Canada back then when all the $$s they were pouring into tarsands development was largely regarded as a huge clusterfuck.

        •  Petro Canada? (0+ / 0-)

          PetroCan was started as a Crown Corporation(with strong PC opposition) in order to nationalize oil policy in canada by having a strong industry in order represent government within the oil industry

          as soon as Mulroney came into power - he began the dismantling of PetroCan as a crown corporation towards fully privatizing it

          Yes, PetroCan was used to invest and influence oil industry in canada including the tar sands development - as a crown corporation implementing government / national policy in an industry that had / has large foreign / private influences

          A 'thought experiment' on PetroCan might better be - IF PetroCan was allowed to continue and grow as a Crown Corporation - MIGHT it have been better positioned to mitigate the horrendous deleterious effects of how the tar sands have been developed

          Finally - the Liberal Government signed Kyoto - and it was the Harper conservative that withdrew from Kyoto (largely with an eye at the tar sands development)

          There is enough blame for the development of the Tar Sands to go around for EVERYONE - inside Canada and out - because of the lack of foresight on the environment and the influence of monied interests over public good

          "I want to keep them alive long enough that I can win them to Christ," - Rick Warren, Professional Greed Driven Scumbag

          by josephk on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 08:45:47 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly! (0+ / 0-)

      Like the she-demon says "...Drill, Baby; Drill"
         God save us!

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