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  •  OUR sense? (1+ / 0-)
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    Since in fact Wall Street was not prosecuted as extensively as our sense of justice demands, the US should stop enforcing all laws.
    This is what Lanny Breuer had to say regarding his dogged pursuit of justice wrt Wall Street chicanery.  

    http://www.pbs.org/...

    LANNY BREUER: The jobs of tens of thousands of employees can literally be at stake.

    NARRATOR: In a September 2012 speech, Lanny Breuer gave a speech explaining his reluctance to indict a major bank.

    LANNY BREUER: — the kinds of considerations in white collar cases that literally keep me up at night.

    MARTIN SMITH: You gave a speech before the New York Bar Association. And in that speech, you made a reference to losing sleep at night, worrying about what a lawsuit might result in at a large financial institution.

    LANNY BREUER: Right.

    MARTIN SMITH: Is that really the job of a prosecutor, to worry about anything other than simply pursuing justice?

    LANNY BREUER: Well, I think I am pursuing justice. And I think the entire responsibility of the department is to pursue justice. But in any given case, I think I and prosecutors around the country, being responsible, should speak to regulators, should speak to experts, because if I bring a case against institution A, and as a result of bringing that case, there’s some huge economic effect — if it creates a ripple effect so that suddenly, counterparties and other financial institutions or other companies that had nothing to do with this are affected badly — it’s a factor we need to know and understand.

    SEN. TED KAUFMAN: That was very disturbing to me, very disturbing. That was never raised at any time during any of our discussions. That is not the job of a prosecutor, to worry about the health of the banks, in my opinion. Job of the prosecutors is to prosecute criminal behavior. It’s not to lie awake at night and kind of decide the future of the banks.

    I am certain that is the point, not a calculated emotional button fast-track to the rec list.
    I share Sen. Kaufman's sense of just how extensively the Obama DoJ has pursued Justice on Wall Street.  How about you?

    all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    by 4kedtongue on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 10:49:27 AM PDT

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    •  And (0+ / 0-)

      Here I thought mentioning it is DK consensus opinion that Wall Street was under-punished would be one thing no one would disagree with.

      I so under-estimated DK.

      •  C'mon Quiclund... (0+ / 0-)

        ...I think you know what part of your comment I was addressing.

        Of course you know what the consensus is here regarding the zeal with which the DoJ has pursued the higher ranking executives on Wall Street.  Your comment was a low blow.  The diarist was pointing out a double standard wrt who gets prosecuted and who doesn't, NOT that the US should stop enforcing all laws because of that double standard.

        It's one thing to make it about the diarist and those who support the diary's main argument.  It's another to double down when called out on it.

        You can and have done so much better when you disagree with the premise of a diary.  I hope I'm not over-estimating your ability to make an argument worthy of a respectful reply.  Kindly cut the shit.

        :)

        all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

        by 4kedtongue on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 08:41:25 AM PDT

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        •  Since I acknowledged the prosecution has not been (0+ / 0-)

          as severe as anyone here would like, I do not see what your point is. You seem to be hung up on the phrasing of my original comment, which spoke of the consensus DK opinion.

          Is that your objection, that I call opinion opinion and not axiomatic fact?

          •  Anyone here would like... (0+ / 0-)

            ...including you?  It was a compound sentence, after all.  What came after your acknowledgement was more than a misreading of the diarist's intended argument.  

            Since A, then B.  

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            Since in fact Wall Street was not prosecuted as extensively as our sense of justice demands,
            Then
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            the US should stop enforcing all laws.
            Is this what you actually believe the diarist is saying?  Or is this your way of distancing yourself from the DKos consensus regarding the lack of will of the DoJ to prosecute Wall Street execs?

            You see, your acknowledgement in the first part of the sentence takes on a sarcasm in the latter part of the sentence.  It's a little word game...and it's easy enough to recognize it for what it is.

            all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

            by 4kedtongue on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 09:00:38 AM PDT

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