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  •  So NSA is so clever and evil that they are giving (10+ / 0-)

    away the source code for the software that is going to ... what, allow NSA to record every key stroke you type???

    SE Android is the Android version of SE-Linux that is in just about EVERY Linux distribution around, and its been around for about 20 years. Every popular Linux distribution (Fedora, Ubuntu, RedHat, Centos, ...) uses SE-Linux and its labeled-security model to PREVENT unauthorized accesses.

    For the unaware (which appears to be the OP) NSA has 2 missions, 1) Foreign Signals Intelligence and 2) Security of US Communications (and Computing) systems.  COMSEC (nowadays termed Information Assurance) is the poorer step-child of the SIGINT Division. And has, despite the current diarists opinion, developed and promulgated much of the security technology extant in the Internet.

    If you are worried about what SE Android does, you can just go read the software, or ask any Android kernel developer what it does.

    SE Android isn't evil.

    •  I just posted my questions as you posted a (3+ / 0-)
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      partial answer.

      THAT was scary fast.

    •  FYI (6+ / 0-)
      “Apple (AAPL) does not accept source code from any government agencies for any of our operating systems or other products,” says Kristin Huguet, a spokeswoman for the company.

      None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. -Johann von Goethe

      by gjohnsit on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 06:48:09 PM PDT

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    •  Can you/someone please explain this to (5+ / 0-)

      us un-techy types?

      "You are not even aware of what is possible. The extent of their capabilities is horrifying."Edward Snowden -6.62, -6.92

      by CanyonWren on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 08:50:50 PM PDT

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      •  SE-Linux is an old project from the (1+ / 0-)
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        early days of Linux when NSA was looking for a new vehicle to host secure applications. Ones where you could have people with different privileges all using the same system. NSA funded work at UC Berkley that gave us the BSD unix version, and Linux looked to be the next one.

        So SE-Linux project built the pieces that were deemed important by the security community. Privilege management, audit, labeling, and then the core engine to run the system securely. After about 5 years of private development it was made open-source, SE-Android just takes that same software and concepts and puts it on a phone.

    •  smart people are losing that internal war, though (5+ / 0-)

      The NSA used to be clever enough to recognize that PRISM is exactly the kind of thing they're constantly exploiting in other countries. In 2004/2005 "somebody" using a cell tower near the US embassy in Athens inserted a rootkit into the Greek government's wiretapping system, and turned it around to clone the prime minister and a couple hundred other officials' phones. The Greeks only noticed because "somebody" fucked up an upgrade and interfered with some traffic.

      SE Android is exactly the kind of thing the NSA is supposed to be doing. And then they defeat the purpose entirely by packing everything anybody might want to steal off an Android phone into one convenient box in Utah, so China can just lift the whole thing with lower odds of getting caught.

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