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  •  No doubt. But it'll bounce off the little minds of (8+ / 0-)

    far too many people.

    I love my Commonewealth and was shocked when Tim Kaine sent George Allen to the showers. Maybe we'll dodge the Cooch, but who knows. THAT wud b cheezburger, srsly.

    •  I lived in Richmond for over 20 years. (11+ / 0-)

      I was absolutely thrilled when Kaine ( who at one time was one of my City Councilmen, I didn't like him then, am not really fond of him now, either) defeated Allen.  I was very, very disturbed when they kicked Chuck Robb to the curb with the smarmy smears about him citing his support of the LGBT community back then.  He was one of our earliest supporters and risked much to stand up for equality ( as much as one could back then).

      I can't wrap my head around how Virginians ( folks who elected Doug Wilder, for gosh sakes, to Governor) can continue to support and elect folks like they do for Governor.

      Nothing changes without public pressure: public pressure doesn't happen without dissemination of knowledge and 'true' facts. Bit me FOX.

      by emsprater on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 06:52:29 PM PDT

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      •  Well, these are also the people (7+ / 0-)

        who almost gave Robb's senate seat to Oliver North.

        •  I got some campaign stuff from Ollie, gloating (6+ / 0-)

          about how all the liberals in the Senate would turn pale when he strode up the aisle to take his seat. It came with a return-postage-paid envelope. I threw it all away, but mentioned it to a friend, who said, "You should have taped a brick to it and sent it back."

        •  two things (2+ / 0-)
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          John Warner put up a 3rd party candidate to undercut North

          State is neither as Republican nor as conservative as it was then

          "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

          by teacherken on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 04:40:16 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, but apparently VA can be ... (0+ / 0-)

            fooled by the right wing, as evidenced by the election of the folks sitting in the current administration.  I'd like to think they would one day learn their lesson.  Now I live in FL, and it's no better.

            Nothing changes without public pressure: public pressure doesn't happen without dissemination of knowledge and 'true' facts. Bit me FOX.

            by emsprater on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 05:42:29 AM PDT

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          •  I know Warner did that. (0+ / 0-)

            But North still came within three percent.  And the impression I've gotten is that the only reason he didn't win was BECAUSE of the 3rd party guy.

            And obviously the state's not as conservative or as Republican as it was then.  But that doesn't change or excuse the fact that VA voters then, many of whom are almost certainly still voting now, almost sent a convicted felon to the Senate.

      •  Hadn't heard that about Chuck Robb, but I do (2+ / 0-)
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        remember watching a few minutes of his final debate with Allen. Chuck was kind of dour, all business, whereas everything Allen said was wreathed in a sunny smile, with "That's why I should be your senator!" It worked. I'd read when GA became governor that "Any resemblance to a young Ronald Reagan was purely intentional." Blech and double blech.

        I was living in MD this time last year and it seemed that there were 3 Allen ads (per half hour) to one for Kaine. The Kaine ads, methought, were weak and made him look kind of silly, and I wanted all the more to be able to vote for him. Hence my delighted surprise to wake up the next morning to find he'd won.

        My landlady in Virginia Beach said, "This area is teabagger central," which given the huge military presence didn't surprise me. Not sure how much Northern VA balances it out.

        •  NOVA is now the gorilla in VA politics (1+ / 0-)
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          Way more influence than any other area. Also, the Norfolk area has gone way blue, regardless of the military.

          "There's a fine line between clever and stupid." This Is Spinal Tap

          by ebirch1 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 06:05:20 AM PDT

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          •  Really? I'm surprised. OK, not every military (0+ / 0-)

            member is automatically a Republican, but I'd think the vast majority are. Can you give us a link to stats about the blueness of Norfolk?

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