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  •  You're conflating the security of one's... (7+ / 0-)

    ...personal computer with browsing security on the internet.

    I haven't really discussed internet security.  This diary is about security FROM the internet - not ON it.

    Perhaps later - but I will point this out:

    Encryption works. Properly implemented strong crypto systems are one of the few things that you can rely on. Unfortunately, endpoint security is so terrifically weak that NSA can frequently find ways around it.
    ~ Edward Snowden, here.

    It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

    by Jaime Frontero on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 12:21:46 AM PDT

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    •  If you don't connect to the internet (2+ / 0-)
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      And have a strong password, pretty much any OS is secure. No?

      My point is only that once you venture on to the tubes, your data gets pipelined through a Tier 1 server and if it is in the USA or any foreign listening post where the NSA has a tap, it can be accessed. And the revelations in the past 2 days about how some companies cooperated with PRISM only reinforces this.

      You do have a knock-down case not to use any MS OS or applications, I don't see that OSX or Linux have quite the same built-in vulnerabilities (depends on implementation, and I use all 3 by necessity although I would "X" Windows if I could).

      Maybe Snowden thinks crypto can be relied on but some other ex-NSA with much better credentials than him on the subject disagree and 2 building in Oak Ridge full of Cray Jaguars and Titans dedicated to cryptographic research and decoding tasks suggest no one should bet on it.

      And another of Snowden's revelations suggests people who use crypto do so with the knowledge that the mere fact they have done so will flag their transactions for harvesting, analysis and storage, and that because they contain encrypted content, no warrant is required should the NSA, CIA or FBI decide it should be decrypted.

      Certainly cryto slows things down and certainly not everything encrypted will be selected for decryption, but never say never.

      400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 08:10:27 AM PDT

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    •  Hey Jaime ... (1+ / 0-)
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      Would you be interested in forming a group about net/OS security here?

      I think we have lots of people interested and some of us have working skills.

      400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 08:58:25 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, but the NSA reference suggests it (0+ / 0-)

      The NSA isn't normally penetrating indivdual PCs, though.  They are collecting internet traffic.  

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