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  •  I don't think the prosecution can argue (2+ / 0-)
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    with any credibility that a pulled lanyard proves this whole scenario.

    They can do what they did -- show the pulled lanyard, and ask how it might have happened, and maybe speculate.  They can't say that the lanyard proves anything.

    Unfortunately for the prosecution, the more questions they raise about what might have happened, or what could have happened, the more, ironically, they help the defense.  Admitting that the jury has to speculate about what happened, admitting that they -- the prosecutors -- don't know with a reasonable degree of certainty what happened and can't tell the jury, with a reasonable degree of certainty, what happened -- that is almost admitting reasonable doubt.  

    •  Yeah, I agree - (4+ / 0-)

      that's why they didn't go here.

       As far as BDLR's use of questions to guide the jury - that just seems like his style, and supposedly he successful with it.  It is the juries decision to decide what is the "truth" and maybe they appreciate being trusted to do their job rather than being told what they should think.  I might have preferred that Mantei close because he pushes are more direct narrative, but it is what it is.

    •  In a comment above, ... (0+ / 0-)

      I posted a link to the 7/11 surveillance video in which it was clear that the lanyard was already fully distended while TM was at the store.  The relevant footage begins at about 15 seconds from the beginning of the video.

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 09:54:31 AM PDT

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      •  So now the string was "fully distended"? (2+ / 0-)
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        AoT, Eric Nelson

        In your previous comment you said the string was "extremely distended". Have you ever owned a hooded sweatshirt? If the string was "fully distended", it would be well past his waist, especially since he was leaning over in the surveillance video.

        •  Semantics. (0+ / 0-)

          The bottom line is that it was obviously already pulled to a great extent, not remotely even with the other end.

          That said, I don't see how it's relevant other than for purposes of wild speculation.

          "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

          by Neuroptimalian on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 12:02:31 PM PDT

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      •  It doesn't seem clear at all to me (2+ / 0-)
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        Dopetron, Eric Nelson

        It looked like they were roughly the same length to me.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 10:38:48 AM PDT

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