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  •  Spin, spin, spin (9+ / 0-)

    Enough with talk the talk, walk the walk.  It's what they do.  I mean this "Obama is thinking about scaling it back THEREFORE Progressive do not need to DO anything" has been used so many times on so many issues that I do not know how anyone can believe it anymore.  

    BREAKING NEWS  Progressives are thinking about reforming something, Get out of the WAY, here they come. CRICKETS.

    •  If it were coming from someone (6+ / 0-)

      other than Wyden, I wouldn't have bothered to post it. With him it seems like it deserves to at least be entered into the record.

      •  I know but that's how pathetic it's become (3+ / 0-)
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        Richard Lyon, accumbens, Aspe4

        Even the most supposedly progressive of them can't muster up more than tepid timidity.  And get on message Wyden, don't you know it's always "We're going to REFORM X".  Not to worry.  Send money.  

        And then...,.

        Four years later or whenever we find out the REFORM made whatever worse and then the response is Well, we TOLD YOU back then that we were going to REFORM X and you didn't get outraged and since you didn't get outraged and no progressive is ever outraged anymore then it doesn't count that our REFORM made things worse.

    •  Obama Excels at Empty Rhetoric (2+ / 0-)
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      But the statement from Wyden is less than empty rhetoric because it doen't even quote someone in the Obama Admin.

      "The problem with posting quotes off the Internet is you never know if they're genuine."--Gen. George Washington at the Battle of Gettysburg, February 30, 1908

      by Aspe4 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 01:56:34 PM PDT

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    •  Yep, it's always about what is implied. (7+ / 0-)

      "Thinking about it" is one of the Obama sops to progressives.  Another favorite, although the actual language varies, is when Obama expresses a preference (e.g., "I would very much like to see ...")  Or when he's deeply troubled.

      With Obama you have to take what he says at exactly face value - nothing more or less - and while you will still be disappointed in the eventual outcome at least you won't have expected more.

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 02:02:36 PM PDT

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