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  •  "Facility Charge" (6+ / 0-)

    That's what my rural electric cooperative calls the $42 per month fee. But it is charged to all customers. A fee to maintain the grid is reasonable in my opinion, especially in the rural area were I live. I saw the heroic work the line crews did getting power re-established after an ice storm 2 and a half years ago. If the grid maintenance fee is charged to all customers, then it should not deter people from installing solar. It should be accompanied by a small decrease in rates so it's not a big windfall for the utility.

    •  cocinero - this seems like the fair way (5+ / 0-)

      A flat monthly connection fee that everyone pays who is connected to the grid and then a variable charge based on how much power you use.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 08:33:54 PM PDT

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      •  I think all of us in this thread (except the, ah, (3+ / 0-)
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        semiot, Calamity Jean, highacidity

        Rubinesque one) are in broad agreement.  Each situation is different.

        It is GOOD if an ocean of solar panels prevents a new fossil or nuke power plant.  It is also crucial that fixed costs be allocated fairly.  And, I dare say, progressively.    

        "I'll not yield. -- Wendy Davis" "Fear is a habit. I am not afraid. -- Aung San Suu Kyi"

        by sturunner on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 09:22:54 PM PDT

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    •  What APS is talking about is a special (4+ / 0-)
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      sturunner, semiot, cocinero, Calamity Jean

      fee only for solar customers. The idea that APS only has the best interests of the non-solar ratepayers at heart is absolutely laughable. They want to eliminate solar that they don't own.

      Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

      by Ian S on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 09:02:28 PM PDT

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      •  My family has a cabin in the White mountains (0+ / 0-)

        (northeastern AZ).  I just check the power bill from Navopache Electric Cooperative.  They use a system of fixed monthly charges since there are many seasonal and part time residences.  The amount of the fixed charges is $30.18, way below the fee that APS wants to charge solar customers.  Since the summers are milder up in the mountains, I wonder how SRP (the other utility co. in metro Phoenix) and Tucson Electric Power break down their charges, since it would give a more apples to apples comparisons if they used a fixed grid maintenance charge.

    •  "Facility charge" etc came about in the 1970s (0+ / 0-)

      when electric rates skyrocketed and people began seriously conserving energy. The charge is designed to discourage energy conservation. The economic arguments are just bafflegab to disguise the fact that you're paying for a product you're not buying.

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