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  •  you need intent to do something illegal (7+ / 0-)

    before those men are arrested, they've been on the internet emailing or IMing the sham "minor". The conversation has to have certain criteria..they need to hear the person they are inviting is a minor, they need to make it clear it is for sex (likely) etc.

    It is clear GZ didn't have any intent to have sex with any minor. We are clear of his intent on the 911 video. Can't charge people with things that are frivolous hoping something sticks.

    •  and as you said (1+ / 0-)
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      he couldn't even know if Martin was a minor or not

      •  That is why it is prudent for people to.... (0+ / 0-)

        mind their own business. Expecially if they don't know what they are doing, noit have been properly trained to interact with the public.

        Be Excellent. Even when no one is watching!

        by Vision on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 01:26:21 AM PDT

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    •  you need intent to do something illegal (0+ / 0-)

      Strictly speaking, not necessarily.

      The law confers a specific meaning on the words intent, intentional and intentionally.  Generally, one must want to obtain a particular result from an action for the action to be considered performed with intent.

      To be guilty of a crime, one generally must satisfy two requirements.  First, one must have committed an actus reus... a proscribed behavior, e.g., causing the death of a human being.  Second, one must possess the requisite mens rea... the mental state specified in the statute that defines the crime.

      There are various mental states associated with various crimes.  E,g., intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, negligently.  The performance by different people of the same act in different circumstances, e.g., discharging a firearm that results in the death of a human being, can result in different crimes being committed, or no crime at all, depending on the mens rea possessed by each of the different actors in the various circumstances, and depending upon all of the circumstances.

      In the context of homicide, intent is usually required for murder in the first degree or murder in the second degree.  Lesser mental states generally correspond to lesser charges, e.g., manslaughter (recklessly) or criminally negligent homicide (generally gross negligence rather than simple negligence).

      Criminal law varies in its details from State to State, though there are some federal crimes... most defined in Title 18 of the United States Code.

    •  George zimmerman expressed his intent... (1+ / 0-)
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      when he submitted an answer to an essay he wrote in college. He wanted to become Law enfocement so he could "hunt and capture bad guys".

      The slogan on the side of most police cars reads "To serve and to protect". I have never seen a police car embose "To track and kill Bad Guys"

      Zimmerman's attitude was skewed from the get go, and he aught to be thrown under the jail for a really long time.

      Be Excellent. Even when no one is watching!

      by Vision on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 11:07:35 AM PDT

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