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  •  Not only that (4+ / 0-)
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    annieli, Shockwave, Dirtandiron, ER Doc
    When Plame and her husband tried to sue for damages, the government shut them down by asserting state secrets privilege.
    They argued - and the courts agreed - that lying to the american people is part of the President's official job duties.

    I want to see Snowden get a fair trial, an impartial jury, and the same sentence James Clapper gets for lying to Congress.

    by happymisanthropy on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 12:19:49 PM PDT

    •  Sovereign immunity is really dying hard. (1+ / 0-)
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      Lilredhead

      That's because it is virtually impossible to be a ruler if one has to account to the populace.
      That the people govern was only given lip service in the Constitution and not backed up by any enforcement powers as long as only a minor percentage of the populace was empowered to vote. And even after universal suffrage arrived, the traditional habits of honoring the male hierarchy in the family insured that the impact was relatively minimal. Indeed, it was possible to decry low voter participation and rest assured there would be no significant difference in the behavior of the base. Then people began streaming across that bridge to the 21 st Century with all sorts of radical ideas. Now the herd of voters has to be thinned. But it is probably too late. Intimidating the womenfolk is not going to work and the bosses no longer control recent immigrants.

      We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 12:38:52 PM PDT

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