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  •  Clearly? (0+ / 0-)

    Bullshit.  You speak for the diarist?

    Yes, they were salvaging defective parts.  Big whoop.  That's nefarious?

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 10:34:11 AM PDT

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    •  I speak for myself (2+ / 0-)
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      I was there, working with both the DX and SX versions when they were cutting edge stuff. Clearly the diarist was there too. And clearly you weren't.

      •  Then you should know (0+ / 0-)

        That it was not a pricing scheme as  presented in the diary.

        Amazing you were there and didn't even catch on to that part.

        Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

        by yet another liberal on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38:43 AM PDT

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        •  You know this how? (0+ / 0-)

          That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

          by enhydra lutris on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 05:11:21 PM PDT

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          •  Let's review (0+ / 0-)

            As detailed in comments (in this diary, particualarly by leftycoaster above), there was a flaw in a number of the FPU's, and so they sold those 486's for cheaper.  The FPU's  weren't disabled, they were rejects, but still salvageable.

            Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

            by yet another liberal on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 06:26:07 PM PDT

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            •  Key word some - find out what it means. No (0+ / 0-)

              evidence or even information was presented that all of the SXs sold were derived from the some that failed. Again, you know that all of them were how?

              That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

              by enhydra lutris on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 08:30:50 PM PDT

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              •  And (0+ / 0-)

                No evidence was presented that they were intentionally disabled.

                However, leftycoaster explained in detail that many were defective.

                So, go ask the diarist for the evidence that the FPU's were disabled.

                Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

                by yet another liberal on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 09:05:38 PM PDT

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                •  See Wikipedia (1+ / 0-)
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                  http://en.wikipedia.org/...

                  486SX (P23) : "An i486DX with the FPU part disabled or missing. Early variants were parts with disabled (defective) FPUs.[5] Later versions had the FPU removed from the die to reduce area and hence cost."

                  486SX2: "i486DX2 with the FPU disabled"

                  It sounds like several viewpoints in the diary & comments are at least partly right.  Some later 486SX's were made with no FPU (math processor).  Some 486SX's had had defective FPU's. (An Intel webpage also shows the introduction date of the 486DX as 2 years before the 486SX.  This probably reflects the DX as a chip with an FPU, however Intel's 386DX chip didn't have an FPU.)  The 486SX2 had a disabled FPU that had not been defective.

                  Regarding marketing, Intel sold a "487 chip" as a math processor as an add-on to a 486SX.  In reality, the 487 was a 486DX chip with an extra pin which shut down the PC's 486SX and took over all its work.

                  "We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free capitalism for the poor." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  by workingwords on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 06:11:18 AM PDT

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