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  •  It harms KTVU's reputation, not Asiana's. (3+ / 0-)
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    waydownsouth, Mnemosyne, Mets102

    If, say, Alitalia, had a really bad crash and a news station reported the pilot's name as "Tony Fuckin' Pepperoni," and I had the choice to fly Alitalia or some other airline into Rome,  I (and almost certainly everyone else) would consider the crash rather than the unacceptable racist names reported on a news station.

    Not that Asiana is an unsafe airline, as stated above in the comments, it's just that seeing a charred-out shell of an aircraft on the side of a runway doesn't inspire confidence. At least not for a while.

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    by weatherdude on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 12:16:50 PM PDT

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    •  I feel it does harm Asiana for negative racist (1+ / 0-)
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      stereotypes about their crew to be reinforced in a public and far-reaching way. Sure, it hurts KTVU as well. But those words do put in the minds of at least some portion of those who hear them that the fault with the airline lies with the race of its employees. I don't see why Asiana should bear the public racial stereotyping of their employees regardless of the crash.

      Would it be wrong and worth suing over if there was no crash? Yes.

      Then it is still wrong and worth suing over in spite of the crash.

      These are my opinions, anyway.

      "The law of love will work, just as the law of gravitation will work, whether we accept it or not...." -- Mahatma Gandhi

      by waydownsouth on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25:46 PM PDT

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    •  Plus, the person who wrote them feels this way, (0+ / 0-)

      that these racist stereotypes are somehow connected to the crash. If they didn't feel that way, they wouldn't have written them. There is no chance that that person is the only one in the world who feels that way. So, reinforcing them does give them strength amongst some viewers who concur..... it does validate that viewpoint. And, it does harm Asiana, even though the crash itself is so much more harmful and may be enough to put them out of business.

      "The law of love will work, just as the law of gravitation will work, whether we accept it or not...." -- Mahatma Gandhi

      by waydownsouth on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 12:28:07 PM PDT

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    •  I agree that from a non-Asian perspective, (1+ / 0-)
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      the racist joke hurts the news station and not the airline. I know my first reaction was "jeez, those idiots at the news station just fell for a Bart Simpson phone prank!" and honestly, other than sympathy for the pilots, I didn't think about the accident or the airline's honor.

      However, I also agree that the Asian notion of "face" (about which I am not an expert) does come into play and that the racist joke impacts their sense of cultural dignity. So from their perspective, there is probably very real harm that they feel.

      I don't personally believe it rises to a lawsuit and I can't imagine such a suit would be fruitful.

      Some of the flight diary people have written excellent diaries that touch on aspects of the crash, and my takeaway from those diaries is that while the investigation is ongoing, it looks like some confluence of circumstances including pilot error contributed to this.

      •  I would think the lawsuit would be more likely (1+ / 0-)
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        badscience

        to draw attention to the problem than it would help.  The party that was "punked" was the news station.  The names themselves, other than playing on racial stereotypical jokes did not reflect on the airline in my opinion.  It isn't like people didn't know it was a Korean airline before. The much greater loss of face is the crash and what the ultimate cause is.  There may be a cultural difference in the kind of loss of face this may cause but the fact of the matter is this seems more like deflection of the real issue onto one that really doesn't change the airline's reputation.  

        "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

        by stellaluna on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 01:25:29 PM PDT

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