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  •  LC - I don't think they would (2+ / 0-)
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    Here is my view on the political dynamics of the Senate filibuster. The Dems don't have 50 votes for substantive changes in the filibuster rules, and if the GOP has a majority in 2014 or 2016 they won't either. The Senate is, first and foremost, a club, and senior members in good standing (in both parties) don't favor changes in the filibuster rules. However, if the Dems change any Senate rule on filibuster with 51 votes all bets are off. Then I do believe the GOP would change the Senate to majority rules when they have a majority. Reid is trying to finesse this rule change by suggesting that it is only for executive office appointees. However, that's not the issue. The issue is can the Senate change the rules with 51 votes? Once that precedent is set, it could be applied to all appointments. However, if some compromise is negotiated, and the Senate rules are not changed by 51 votes, I do not think the GOP would change the filibuster rules as soon as they had a majority.

    My view on executive appointments is that they should all have an up or down vote by the full Senate within 60 days of nomination. I'd like that to be a Senate rule.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 01:55:52 PM PDT

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    •  If the Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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      Odysseus, Lefty Coaster

      are ever in a position to change the filibuster rules, they will do it in a heartbeat.

      •  Kane - I just don't agree (0+ / 0-)

        Just as Reid has had a problem pulling together the Dems on changing the rules, the same would be true for the GOP. The more veteran members of the Senate, of both parties, don't want to change the filibuster rules.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 04:28:46 PM PDT

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    •  Your naive trust in Mitch McConnell is misplaced (0+ / 0-)
      Nuclear Flashback

      Mitch McConnell Then

      “The majority in the Senate is prepared to restore the Senate’s traditions and precedence to ensure that regardless of party, any president’s judicial nominees, after full and fair debate, receive a simple up-or-down vote on the Senate floor. It’s time to move away from … advise and obstruct and get back to advise and consent.” – Mitch McConnell on Senate floor, May 19, 2005

      “This is not the first time a minority of senators has upset a Senate tradition or practice, and the current Senate majority intends to do what the majority in the Senate has often done–use its constitutional authority under article I, section 5, to reform Senate procedure by a simple majority vote. Despite the incredulous protestations of our Democratic colleagues, the Senate has repeatedly adjusted its rules as circumstances dictate.” – Mitch McConnell on Senate floor, May 23, 2005

      “The time has come to change the rules. I want to change them in an orderly fashion. I want a time agreement. But, barring that, if I have to be forced into a corner to try for majority vote I will do it because I am going to do my duty as I see my duty, whether I win or lose…. If we can only change an abominable rule by majority vote, that is in the interests of the Senate and in the interests of the nation that the majority must work its will. And it will work its will.” – Mitch McConnell on Senate floor, May 23, 2005

      "If Wall Street paid a tax on every “game” they run, we would get enough revenue to run the government on." ~ Will Rogers

      by Lefty Coaster on Mon Jul 15, 2013 at 04:28:57 PM PDT

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