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  •  You're making assumptions to think we lost (1+ / 0-)
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    Right now, we have an agreement for no filibusters of two new NLRB nominees, and the other five nominees go through now.  The agreement is that Labor gets to pick anyone they want.  To think this is a loss, you're either buying into the "Obama is a weakling" meme and suggesting that he'll throw away the bird in hand for absolutely no reason (by nominating a conservative).  

    You're also assuming (1) that McCain and the other relatively moderate Republicans (who, again, went against McConnell) will slap Democrats in the face two weeks later, and that (2) the 51+ Democrats who are already resolved to nuke the filibuster on executive nominations will fold like a cheap suit in a mere two weeks when smacked in the face with an outrageous breach of an agreement intended to forestall the nuclear option.  That makes little sense to me.

    It's a win.  Unambiguously so.  If shit goes south in the future, then complain then.  But the facts on the ground, not the speculative future, show this as a win.

    •  I'm not saying it's not a win, (0+ / 0-)

      just making sure we understand its limitations. It's a very qualified win.

      I don't think Obama is a weakling; I think he's way too eager to please everyone and show how Reasonable and Serious and Transpartisan he is. You know how much the Village will coo at him if he nominates someone that Wal-Mart doesn't hate to the NLRB. I'm not saying it's going to happen; I'm saying don't count your chickens just yet.

      Also, if I had a nickel for every time Senate Democrats were slapped in the face by Republicans and did nothing about it, well, I'd be able to buy a Senator. And even if they don't completely fold, to imagine there won't be another round of negotiations and, thus, compromises when the GOP reneges is to daydream.

      Or maybe not. Maybe the GOP will be too busy with some other bullshit to block the NLRB nominations, and they'll go through. Just, as I said. Careful with the chicken-counting.

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      by Code Monkey on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:50:22 AM PDT

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