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  •  Yes, the NJ treated Bob Dylan like any other Jew (1+ / 0-)
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    N in Seattle

    They worked him until near starvation, gassed him, then took the gold filling out of his teeth to sell.

    Your sense of history, equivalence, and decorum are unmatchable.

    •  The Gestapo were elements of the police state (2+ / 0-)
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      Brown Thrasher, 84thProblem

      What was the Gestapo?

      The Gestapo had the authority to investigate cases of treason, espionage, sabotage and criminal attacks on the Nazi Party and Germany. The basic Gestapo law passed by the government in 1936 gave the Gestapo carte blanche to operate without judicial oversight. The Gestapo was specifically exempted from responsibility to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws. As early as 1935, however, a Prussian administrative court had ruled that the Gestapo's actions were not subject to judicial review.

      "As long as the police carries out the will of the leadership, it is acting legally."  

      The power of the Gestapo most open to misuse was called Schutzhaft—"protective custody", a euphemism for the power to imprison people without judicial proceedings.

      This doesn't sound more and more like what's going on in this country now?

      My point is that what you see going on in this country now is exactly what happened in the 1930s in Germany as far as the state taking away rights in the name of public safety.

      Of course there is no equivalence to the horror of the holocaust and the rest of the atrocities committed by the Nazis.  But there is a growing equivalence to the police state in which we live.

      Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

      by absdoggy on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 07:38:29 AM PDT

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    •  You do realize, don't you, (0+ / 0-)

      ...that the death camps were the end result of a 1000 years of German anti-Semitism? They wouldn't have been possible if that entire national culture hadn't been made to reek of the doctrine that their fellow human beings were less than animals (though the outward expression of that prejudice is mostly contained to the former East Germany these days).

      Every little evil that a culture accepts as banal brings them closer to the event horizon (& witness how little moral outrage you see anymore concerning America's still-standing torture dungeons...). Atrocities become possible precisely because people think nothing of them.

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