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  •  Here's a hint, DeadHead: (0+ / 0-)

    Disagreeing with the tiny orthodoxy you are so desperate to defend is not an ad hominem attack. Pointing out mistakes Snowden has made (which neither you, the OP, nor anyone else has been able to justify) is not an ad hominem attack. Was that easy enough to understand?

    You are quite a little hero-worshiper, aren't you DeadHead?

    •  that "tiny" orthodoxy is a majority on this (10+ / 0-)

      site, in this country, and in the world according to the lastest polls.

      but using Orwellian language doesn't surprise me in the least. War is peace. tiny is giant. i get it.

      "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

      by poligirl on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 02:01:07 PM PDT

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      •  The idea (0+ / 0-)

        that Snowden is beyond reproach, that even when he appears to be in the wrong, his every action must be defended (and few are actually defending this leak to the Chinese, most just choose to ignore it), is a tiny orthodoxy on this site, in this country, and in the world.

        •  Not beyond reproach, (7+ / 0-)

          just not the issue.

          •  What (0+ / 0-)

            Snowden's done is not the issue? I'm not criticizing his personality, his libertarianisim, his girlfriend, or any of the other things that have been declared off the table. I am criticizing the fact that he chose to reveal detailed, previously unknown, classified information, the nature of which he did not understand, to curry favor with his HK and Chinese hosts. Is that too now off the table?  What exactly can be discussed when talking about Snowden?

            •  what Snowden's blown the whistle on is the (3+ / 0-)

              issue, as much as you would rather it be Snowden and his escapades.

              "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

              by poligirl on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:48:13 PM PDT

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              •  I haven't talked about (0+ / 0-)

                Snowden's character or his escapades, because I don't really care about them. I have criticized a particular leak. Apparently, since you can't respond to my criticism, your only response is to lie about me and my motives. Pathetic.

                •  and the reasons behind the leak, hence behavior. (5+ / 0-)

                  what i see is you desperately wanting to avoid addressing the massive and constitutionally dubious dragnet that is going on and even getting bigger under Obama.

                  that's the main crux of the leaks. and Ed Snowden save for him being the one that leaked it, has nothing to do with those programs.

                  but yes, you want to concentrate on what he's done since the US put his head on the chopping block after he let the leak heard round the world loose.

                  "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

                  by poligirl on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:59:18 PM PDT

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    •  Ha ha ha (4+ / 0-)

      The "tiny orthodoxy."

      I like that.

      The dozens of recs on your comments, along with your avoidance of personal swipes directed at those with whom you're addressing clearly indicate you're in the majority.

      But of course, this isn't a popularity contest, right?

      This makes you sound desperate, by the way:

      You are quite a little hero-worshiper, aren't you DeadHead?




      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

      by DeadHead on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:23:55 PM PDT

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