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  •  You are a dishonest hack. (0+ / 0-)

    I've never said he is a traitor. I've never said his other revelations are lies, or mostly made up hyperbole. I've taken issue with one of his actions, and said he needs to be held accountable for it.

    •  Ad hom again. Tough habit to break, isn't it? (3+ / 0-)
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      Held accountable for "his actions" implies you don't approve. We get that. But by fixating on Snowden (and, I'll assume Greenwald), you are making it clear you think his revelations are espionage, as Obama does, and not whistle blowing exposure of government malfeasance and even crimes, which is what Snowden's done.

      If you're all for the NSA spy programs, as a minority of Americans (that would be me ironically using YOUR fallacy of popularity, FYI: falsely claiming that majorities give credence to the argument), then just say it. Snowden does not appear to have undermined any national security up to now, unless you consider exposing and embarrassing the Obama administration as "security."

      So in the meantime, most of us don't give a crap about Snowden's character, or what you think of him, and remain appalled and angered by what he AND OTHERS, including the NSA in testimony yesterday, have admitted is a program far more extensive and insulting to the Constitution and the American people's trust than anything we'd previously imagined.

      "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by Kombema on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:37:52 PM PDT

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      •  I'll say it again. (0+ / 0-)

        You are a dishonest hack. I haven't "fixat[ed] on Snowden", or as you assume, Greewald. I have described one leak (not all his leaks as you claim) that I think was illegal and that I think Snowden should be held accountable for. No where have I stated I was "all for the NSA spy programs". No where have I criticized Snowden's character. You are lying about my comments.  You are a dishonest hack.

        I encourage your friends to HR me. I would love to see what the Admins around here have to say about your bald-faced lies. That this diary's author Rec'd this dishonest bullshit is disgusting.

    •  TEXTBOOK ad hominem (3+ / 0-)
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      "You are a dishonest hack" - naked insult, NO supporting evidence.

      You also repeat ad nauseam ad infinitum the debunked slander/libel (it has shown up both in print and verbally) that "Snowden leaked to the Chinese [government - sometimes explicitly stated, sometimes implied]".

      No. Snowden talked to a Hong Kong newspaper and told everybody. Chinese autocrats, bureaucrats and literate peasants included - also anyone and everyone who reads that newspaper, and any other reporters who picked up the story, and anyone reading/listening to them, and so on and so forth.

      You may think that's wrong, and that's your prerogative. But you should be honest enough to say so.

      If it's
      Not your body,
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      And it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:41:58 PM PDT

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