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  •  I think many people are missing the point of why (19+ / 0-)

    I chose to share this.

    It is this -  support of what Snowden did will cross as many ideological lines as will condemnation of Snowden.

    In politics one often has to make alliances on some issues with people whose positions on other issues one abhors.  In legislative battles that is often the case.

    I found it of great interest that Humphrey chose to inject himself into this controversy, and the forcefulness of his argument was I think worth examining.

    I hold no brief for Humphrey, okay?

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 12:23:56 PM PDT

    •  Yes. (4+ / 0-)
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      You are correct.

      There are some liberals who support Snowden, just like there are some liberals who do not.

      And yet, support or condemn, they are still liberals.

      Would you not agree?

      Nothing worth noting at the moment.

      by Bonsai66 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 12:46:39 PM PDT

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      •  And there you have your answer. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

        by sebastianguy99 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 02:27:45 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, that is the answer. (0+ / 0-)

          To each his own.

          I take solace in science.

          And make my decisions based on our transitory impermanence and consciousness.

          I wish I could take solace in his sense of an omnipotent being which governs our actions and lives.

          Either way, we're still under the same tent, whether it pains him or not.

          Nothing worth noting at the moment.

          by Bonsai66 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 10:44:00 PM PDT

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      •  Depends (1+ / 0-)
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        On how they feel about the issues raised as a result of Snowden's actions.

        And whether those "liberals" not supportive of Snowden dismiss those who do as closet libertarians, working against the best interests of the president and the Democratic Party, because they're anti-American or something.

        Have you seen any "liberals" here who've implied that those who consider the 4th amendment more important than lining up behind a Democratic president on the surveillance issue are taking words out of a "Teabagger Manifesto?" I have.




        Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

        by DeadHead on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 03:18:52 PM PDT

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