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  •  It wasn't a well-thought out statement since he (4+ / 0-)

    hasn't even been allowed to enter the country.  If he hasn't been extradited I wouldn't take it as a sign of benevolence.  Putin would only be interested in a prisoner exchange and if there was a deal that satisfied him, ES would be sent back to the US.  It's a little premature to toast Russia's record on rights when his request for asylum could easily be denied.

    There is no existence without doubt.

    by Mark Lippman on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:51:36 AM PDT

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    •  So much time and energy wasted. (4+ / 0-)

      All this time he could have been publicly negotiating his return to the United States and using the negotiations as a platform to highlight problems with how these cases are handled.  

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:56:01 AM PDT

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      •  Negotiating? (1+ / 0-)
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        Have you not noticed that the US does not seem to be in a 'negotiating' frame of mind?  What do you suggest he negotiate? A bigger cell than Bradley Manning has?

        If Ed Snowden returns to the US, he will be locked up, out of sight of the public and with no voice at all in what the publics sees and hears about him. My guess is he'd never come to trial.  I don't think he'd consider it to be a win for him or for the NSA discussions he's started.

        The irony of this diary is that a citizen of the United States, home of freedom and speakers for human rights all over the world, has had to go to some pretty nasty places in order to remain free. But maybe not so ironic in that this same United States has dealt with and is still dealing with some even nastier people to keep this country 'free'.

        I hope he gets his safe place and can lead a good life. He deserves that.

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        by graycat13 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 08:30:20 AM PDT

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        •  How would you know if the US is interested (1+ / 0-)
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          in negotiations or not?  Snowden has made no overture.  He has made clear that he considers himself above the laws of this country, and above the people of this country who would be deciding his case on a jury.

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 08:38:44 AM PDT

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