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  •  Your old blog host has a different opinion: (4+ / 0-)
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    When I read this I was completely blown away. Not only does she defend Zim and attack Trevon but she defends the very wild west concept of SYG.

    The most objectionable part of his comments: Not once did he express any empathy for George Zimmerman, the man who was acquitted who spent the past 16 months under the cloud of criminal charges, and who continues to have a target on his back.

    Obama said if Martin had been white the result would probably have been different. Not once did he acknowledge that if Trayvon Martin had not attacked George Zimmerman, the outcome might have been different.

    As a former Constitutional law professor, I would expect our President to acknowledge that the purpose of a criminal trial is not to send messages to the American public. It is merely to test the Government's evidence: Did the state prove guilt and disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

    By the President comparing himself to Martin 35 years ago, is he saying he would have responded as Martin did, and physically attacked someone for following him? I hope not because our laws do not allow such conduct. It is not illegal for a private citizen to follow someone. It is illegal to physically assault another person who has not threatened him with the imminent use of force.

    I am very disappointed that the President has chosen to endorse those who have turned a case of assault and self-defense into a referendum on race and civil rights. And that he is using it to support those with an agenda of restricting gun rights.

    The President, like so many others, refuses to acknowledge that George Zimmerman had no avenue of retreat from the beating Martin was inflicting on him. Zimmerman would have prevailed on self-defense without a stand your ground law. The only additional element a stand your ground law adds to traditional self-defense is the elimination of a duty to retreat if one is available.

    Florida Gov. Rick Scott says there will be no change to Florida's Stand Your Ground law. I hope he's right. The law does not need to be changed. People have a right to defend themselves from attacks like the one Martin initiated against Zimmerman. They should not have to wait until the next blow, which could be a fatal one.

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 06:18:35 PM PDT

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    •  Sadly, yes. We are patiently awaiting the return (5+ / 0-)
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      of Armando, which seems unlikely until the host's blogging re the Zimmerman case has concluded.

    •  Honestly (0+ / 0-)

      I agree with that entire quoted piece. The left is making a fool of itself over this case, acting like they can see inside Zimmerman's mind and KNOW he was racially profiling Martin, and that Zimmerman - who is of an ethnicity which certainly also finds itself under a shadow of racism on a constant basis - was acquitted because of his race or Martin's race.

      Time to take a breath, step back, and realize that racial disparity does not in any way, shape, or form imply racial motivation. There must be other evidence at hand to assert that racial profiling occurred, or that the justice system is racially biased in this particular case.

      •  Seriously? (2+ / 0-)
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        He followed Trayvon Martin because he was black, because apparently "these punks always get away." That is Profiling 101. And quit trying to say that folks who say that (i.e. primarily people of color) are just overemotional and you are obviously the objective one dealing with "facts." That is a very, very old derailing trick.

        And racism 101? You don't have to be white to uphold the ideals of white supremacy.

        Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

        by moviemeister76 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 11:37:28 PM PDT

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