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  •  Fair trials are for people who can pay for them & (0+ / 0-)

    White men who kill Black boys. Can't have a fair trial when the evil racist SPD & initial AG were on the side of that evil killing monster.

    If not the courts where's our remedy? I guess we need to go back to niggertown & be good niggers then maybe the white men won't mess with us too much.

    FUCK your white people's law.

    FUCK your police.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Sat Jul 20, 2013 at 11:45:07 AM PDT

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    •  Fair Trials (0+ / 0-)

      I think the remedy is for the country to actually have a honest, much needed conversation.  I think that having this conversation is almost impossible.  We have a nation that denies inequality, denies racism and obviously denies justice.  While the talking heads are making the case for this acquittal, at the end of the day, a boy, who was doing nothing wrong, just walking down the street in the early evening rain, minding his own business is dead.  Whether or not the jury followed the law, the problem is, the law is wrong, the law has licensed wannabe cops/neighbourhood watch captains follow a boy based solely on the victim's race because he felt that he was suspicious.  The Supreme Court has ruled that cops (real law enforcement) cannot racially profile, yet a wannabe copy who is walking around a neighbourhood ARMED is legally allowed to.  I don't know what the answer is and I don't know how to make it different. I only hope you know that in your sadness, frustration and anger, you are not alone.

      Canadian mother of four, works at Canadian University, blogs and co-host of Blog Talk Radio's "Lies My Country Told Me" with co-host and love of my life, Fred Lemon.

      by mmayer on Sat Jul 20, 2013 at 03:36:23 PM PDT

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      •  Another piece of ice to be broken (0+ / 0-)

        for an honest and fruitful discussion is that there are problems that exist ONLY BECAUSE of RACISM.

        One other piece of the ice is what we are doing about the issues.  Well lets read the score over the last 60 years, what have we been actively doing and what progress or lack thereof are we seeing?  (Think literacy, two parent households, employment, education, incarceration, crime etc.)

        Unfortunately you will not be welcome to begin the discussion unless the conversation is that we need to do more of what we've been doing. This leaves two options.  Converse with people who are either cruel for expecting the same deplorable result, or insane for expecting different better results.  I refuse to do either if those are the terms.

        I would love to have the conversation if the idea of let's try something different was at least on the table.

        •  Conversation (0+ / 0-)

          Until we actually recognize the systematic racism practiced against marginalized population that conversation won't be talking place.  I think though that if you can change one person's mind, you can change the world.  Talk, Talk, Talk.  Talk until your blue in the face, talk when you think it is hopeless.  Be the agent of change.  

          I think giving up, although I certainly understandable, only allows this to continue on unchecked.  I know it often feel futile, but I really don't know what else to do.

          Canadian mother of four, works at Canadian University, blogs and co-host of Blog Talk Radio's "Lies My Country Told Me" with co-host and love of my life, Fred Lemon.

          by mmayer on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 09:24:57 AM PDT

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          •  I'm not a quitter. (0+ / 0-)

            I just want to know the terms of the conversation.   I don't go into it without conceding the sins of the past, but I find few people with an open mind about the sins of the present which have much more to do with the fact that we systematically pander and spend in ways that hurt and not help, and betray a low expectation of black folks.  I have never heard a justification for our present policies that does not betray racism.  I'm not saying there is cruel intent, but it is nonetheless cruel.

            We don't examine what we're doing and repeat our failures for over 60 years.  Many of us do examine it and usually get called a racist for our troubles.

            It doesn't help that we are divided by our government, and by the media.  Its even worse in the case of George Zimmerman, not only was he divided he was subdivided, because he identifies with his hispanic side.  That not being good enough we had to subdivide him and add the white label, as if that's all the news we needed to know about him.

            Wasn't there a civil rights movement in part so that defendants could go to trial and be judged based on the facts and not their race?  There was, only it was a lot more civil.

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