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  •  OK, so that's more important than turning (2+ / 0-)
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    the post office into a bank?

    If that's such a great building maybe it could be made into a museum or something like that (it never struck me as a particularly good post office!  for example, it comes across as very unwelcoming).

    The bigger issue to me is that as government services fade into irrelevancy, how long should they be maintained?

    •  The suggestion is for the Post Office to (9+ / 0-)

      provide simple banking services as one of its offerings, not to "turn it into a bank."

      Obviously is a service becomes irrelevant it should be phased out.  And just as obviously the Post Office is not irrelevant, providing as it does a Universal Service for pennies which would still be financially viable without the onerous pension obligations that has been foisted upon it (see discussion in diary and elsewhere in comments).

      •  Post Offices in Europe provide banking (3+ / 0-)
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        services, and utility bills as well as other transactions can be performed there.

        The trouble with shutting down the postal services is that once these services are gone, it will be nearly impossible to get them back.  I really don't care to see the US have that regret.

        It gets on my nerves, and you know how I am about my nerves...

        by ciganka on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:44:27 AM PDT

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    •  Are FedEx, UPS, etc. irrelevant? (12+ / 0-)

      They are less accessible and more expensive, but basic delivery services are still vital.

      If the private carriers were subject to the same rules (universal coverage, congressional approval of rate changes, etc) how long would it take for them to disappear?

      As much as possible the Postal Service has been barred from operating like its competitors, while they circle awaiting its demise like distant relatives eager for an inheritance.

      It matters not how small the beginning may seem to be: what is once well done is done forever. Henry David Thoreau, in Civil Disobedience

      by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 08:24:12 AM PDT

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    •  Your question is troubling (4+ / 0-)
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      The bigger issue to me is that as government services fade into irrelevancy, how long should they be maintained?
      The USPS is not "fading into irrelevancy", but is being pushed into private corporate hands.

      Remember when.......
      Our roads were maintained by state and county employees, not private contractors?
      Our police services were provided by public employees, not private contractors?
      Our jails were run by public employees, not private corporations?
      Our schools were locally run and staffed by public school employees, not for-profit corporations and for-profit charter schools?
      Our military and its necessary services were provided by members of the military, not private contractors and mercenaries?

      The USPS is just another example of public services being converted to privatized money-makers.

      Stand Up! Keep Fighting! Paul Wellstone

      by RuralLiberal on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30:08 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah OK (2+ / 0-)
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        all that I know is that it is about once every 10 days that I get anything other than junk mail or magazines subscriptions via the USPS.

        30 years ago, it was pretty much every single day that I got something I actually cared to get.

        Anyone can go to Google images and get a yearly chart of first class mail deliveries (hint: down by 40% or more in the past decade).

        So, the question is: should the government be in the business of delivering and subsidizing massive amounts of environmentally sapping junk mail?  

        I suspect not.

        Now, if the USPS could just figure out how to compete with UPS and Fedex, they might stand a fighting chance . . ..

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