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  •  Is that what this is about? (3+ / 0-)
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    doroma, kalmoth, TomP

    I don't know what Kos said, but my goodness.  Throwing white privilege into their arguments is greatly disturbing.

    And distressing.  Wow.  Just wow.

    •  umm, Kos was the one (9+ / 0-)

      who "threw white privilege" into the argument.

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      by corvo on Sat Jul 20, 2013 at 11:35:59 AM PDT

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    •  To be honest, Kos is not the first (3+ / 0-)
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      joanneleon, JosephK74, 4kedtongue

      to offer the false choice. Tim Wise also attempted to claim whether there's a rising police state in the US or not is also white privilege and trying to pit one against the other

      Which again is a false choice

      People of color are hurt by the NSA relevations probably even more so than whites since that same racist structure is just going to be overlayed on top of whatever security state arises

      •  I'm going to read Kos' comments myself (2+ / 0-)
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        wilderness voice, WB Reeves

        and then I will decide that I think he meant.  As for Tim Wise, while I don't always do a careful read on his commentary, I never got that impression from him and that is not how I would interpret his remarks.

        And Bruh1, people of color have ALWAYS BEEN HURT BY WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN DOING.

        Let me refresh you on a little dirty government secret about the Tulsa Race Riots.  You know story well -- I'm sure you do.  Post depression, a lot of white people lost everything they had in the markets.  Well blacks who were living in segregrated towns like the one near Tulsa didn't.  The little they had was more than what others had because of that segregration.  In fact this town was thriving, thus coined 'the Black Wall Street'.

        Oops.  Can't have that.  Town burned down over a 'race riot'.

        The ugly secret here is that the town was bombed by the U.S. government (allegedly, from a read of historical documents on the matter).

        So don't tell me about people of color being disproportionately affected by the NSA because it has always been that way and whatever goes down, we are the first in line to be rounded up.

        I do think black folk and others of color do already know this.

        What I think is that this is a shock to others who didn't.

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