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  •  They were corrupted (0+ / 0-)

    at birth by being morons it would appear.

    ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

    by Kristina40 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 04:39:15 AM PDT

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    •  I don't think that's fair (0+ / 0-)

      That kind of attitude (again, see the similar outrage at the McDonald's case) undermines the integrity of the jury system.  You did not see and hear what the jury did.  If you watched the coverage there is information that you were privvy to that the jurors were not.  They are also given very strict instructions on the law that they must follow.

      I assume there has been a lot of good legal commentary on this case.  The fault here lies with the prosecutors.  I predicted he would walk as soon as I heard they were putting in his statements.  This is my prejudice, I admit, but many prosecutors are the not brightest thinkers.  They are accustomed to straightforwardly presenting evidence to satisfy each of the elements of the crime.  There are usually no surprises for them in court.  If you ever require a criminal defense attorney, I would recommend hiring a dyed in the wool defense lawyer, not a former prosecutor.  The latter usually rely upon their connections to achieve a result for their client, instead of good lawyering.  Monica Lewinsky is a good example of this issue.  When she was represented by a defense lawyer, no one could reach her.  The media derided her counsel and asserted she needed "big" lawyers to represent her.  As soon as she switched to the former prosecutors at Covington they struck a deal and Starr got what he wanted from her.

      Furthermore, prosecutors do sometimes throw cases.  The most obvious example is police misconduct cases.  When you hear that a grand jury did not indict an officer for shooting or harming a citizen, don't blame the jurors.  Blame the prosecutors.  They sometimes will present a weak case that gives the grand jury no choice but to decline to issue a writ.  The legal system has its problems to be sure, but jurors are not one of them IMO.

      •  I live in a similar area in Floriduh (0+ / 0-)

        and I have no doubt these women were at the very least subconsciously racist. I can count on one hand the people that I have met here (8 years now) that have not said or done racist shit in my presence (I am white). I work in a bar and meet hundreds of people in any given year as well as my life outside of work. This are went 80% for McCain (higher than even for Bush) hmmm wonder why?

        ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

        by Kristina40 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 03:52:31 PM PDT

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        •  'Racist' is a strong word... (1+ / 0-)
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 that gets misused a lot. Are these women out and out racist? Maybe. That's hard to prove, though. Are they motivated by cultural predispositions and local prejudices? Oh, yeah. That's harder to fix.

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