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  •  So you're just hunky dory with the government (2+ / 0-)
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    RuralLiberal, Blue Wind

    spying on you? And of course you'd feel the same way if it was a GOP in the WH.

    •  I'm not hunky dory with it, but then I'm also not (0+ / 0-)

      losing sleep over it. It's....meh...to me.

      •  And that's a real problem. If you don't give a (2+ / 0-)
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        shit then blame yourself when the shit hits the fan.

        •  See, Doroma, it's your fault (2+ / 0-)
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          For not being as pure, for not being as true a believer as some. But, when the shit hits the fan on some far off day, then you will feel a reckoning, and you will remember those prophets who risked it all to show you the way.

          Am I missing anything?

          I've seen some hardboiled eggs in my time, but you're about twenty minutes

          by harrylimelives on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 09:03:08 AM PDT

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      •  I assume you feel the same way about the (0+ / 0-)

        legalization of internment camps (and no, Obama's signing statement doesn't mean jack shit) as well?  After all, we did it to the Japanese so meh.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 11:40:44 AM PDT

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        •  Internment camps have been part of (0+ / 0-)

          the government's emergency security plans since the 1950's. I first heard about this in my teens.

          Nothing human is alien to me.

          by WB Reeves on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 02:28:35 PM PDT

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          •  Yeah, so no big deal. Hope you stilfeel that way (0+ / 0-)

            when they are finally implemented .

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 06:44:04 PM PDT

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            •  Do you always assume (0+ / 0-)

              you know what others are thinking? I never said it was no big deal. I just pointed out that such contingency planning has been government policy ever since the hey day of the Cold War.

              Every President from Eisenhower onward has left it unchanged. After 60 plus years, it's clear that the fact that it's on the books tells you nothing about the imminence of its activation. It also indicates that the current President's responsibility is no greater than that of his predecessors.

              None of which makes it okay. It does show that the threat is systemic and longstanding, rather than some new, radical departure.

              If recognizing this undermines the current criticism of the policy, that can only be so if the critics have been making arguments that have ignored this history. In which case they have shot themselves in the foot by making faulty, ahistorical criticisms. That's their own responsibility and no fault of those who point out the facts.    

              Nothing human is alien to me.

              by WB Reeves on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:26:31 AM PDT

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