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  •  maybe i remember 2008 wrong (15+ / 0-)

    but i don't remember Obama working for the progressive vote.  i remember him selling himself as a centrist who would try to bridge between the left and the moderate right.  he shared some things with progressives, but they were things that were pretty main stream.  i don't remember him trying to be a progressive.  i remember him trying to be a moderate and trying to get past partisan bickering to handle some of the big challenges that have been only argued about for decades.  that and he said he wanted to end the war in Iraq and focus on Afghanistan and going after Al Queda.  that's what i remember from 2008.  

    i don't know.  he turned out to be exactly who i saw in 2008.  i guess other people saw something else.  you saw something else.  i don't know what to tell you.

    •  I agree completely (9+ / 0-)

      nice to hear someone who sees things the way I do. The "change we can believe in" was realistic change via compromise between moderates in both parties. Not the way most here decided to interpret it, as finally someone that is going to not tinker at the edges but institute sweeping changes.

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      AntonBursch, Quicklund

      There were some huge flame wars here at Kos for those primaries! Many of the denizens here (myself included) initially backed Edwards because he was the one doing the best at pining for the progressive vote.

      After Edwards flamed out there never appeared to be much difference between Obama and Clinton in term of actual policy proposals (that didn't stop the flame wars, though!)...

      Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity, only not as much fun.

      by Toktora on Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 02:15:35 PM PDT

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