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  •  It's amazing how people jump to conclusions (0+ / 0-)

    No wonder there's no honest discussion of race.

    It's just too hard for people to listen to what other people are saying. People feel attacked even though they're not, and get defensive.

    No, I do not think Trayvon was an ignorant inner city thug.

    And following is what I mean by the statement "her presence helped ensure that the jurors would not be able to envision Trayvon as their own son.":

    - The early photos that came out of Trayvon--on a ski trip, in a football uniform, on a horse, on vacation, etc--were images that white, middle class America can identify with. They can look at those images and activities and think, "that could be my son." They can relate to it.

    - But when they see a young woman, with Rachel's demeanor, her grammar, her diction, her way of expressing herself, they can no longer relate to that. And, frankly, they look down on it. Therefore it changes their opinion of Trayvon and makes him less relatable, too.


    Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

    by Happy Days on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 04:06:45 PM PDT

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    •  How about his brother? (4+ / 0-)

      Calm, soft-spoken, well-spoken, and educated. A mother who's educated and been in the same job for 24 years? They were most indicative of Trayvon. The prosecution needed Rachel Jeantel to testify because she was Trayvon's voice. And no matter how much Mr. West badgered her, she didn't change her story. And that bastard tortured her. But, as she said when interviewed later, her parents taught her to treat adults with respect. She's obviously aware of her weaknesses, but she has a kind heart and didn't want to let Trayvon or his family down. May no one ever use your weaknesses against you.

      •  Yes, Trayvon's brother and parents reflect very (2+ / 0-)
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        well on what kind of person Trayvon must have been.  As I said in my original comment

        If he had been on the phone with his brother, who is an articulate young man, the phone call testimony could have made a real difference.
        Trayvon needed someone who could speak effectively for him. Rachel Jeantel did her best. She has a good heart. She stood up well under the onslaught of Don West.

        But, through no fault of her own, her lack of middle class speech and manners hurt her credibility with the jurors and did not help Trayvon at all.

        We may not like it, but I'm just observing what happened with the jurors in regards to her testimony.

        Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

        by Happy Days on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:09:29 PM PDT

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        •  We really only know what juror B37 thought. (0+ / 0-)

          And frankly, that juror's ability to express herself is lacking. I kept thinking---is she really married to a lawyer? She sounded uneducated. And, you know what, when they're the only witness, jurors believe children who don't speak very well at all.

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