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  •  Correct, what he would need would be (3+ / 0-)
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    Pi Li, VClib, Mindful Nature

    an overt threat of the use of force or violence, or actual use of force or violence.  In other words, following alone, in a public place where you both have a lawful right to be, would not be acting unlawfully, no matter how scared the other person was.  Following PLUS an overt threat of force or violence, or actual use of force or violence, would be acting unlawfully.

    •  How about forcibly grabbing your shirt because I (1+ / 0-)
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      Mindful Nature

      don't want you to get away from me until I am finished questioning you?

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 09:19:00 PM PDT

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    •  The main problem (0+ / 0-)

      Is that the shooter can make up any set of facts and since the legal standard for a self defense is so low, it is nearly impossible to overcome since Florida law effectively presumes self defense as an element of the crime.  Here the shooter doesn't have to prove self defense, only create a doubt that it might have been self defense to be acquitted.  So here, all the shooter has to do is say that his victim attacked and reached for something and your daughter's killer goes free.  

      The problem is the absurd legal standard and burden Florida uses.

      Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion. An activist seeks to change opinion.

      by Mindful Nature on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 09:09:42 AM PDT

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