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  •  I doubt anyone's going to get tough. (6+ / 0-)
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    I suspect this is a facsimile of a strongly written letter.

    The fact is that with all the instability in the mideast region, the EU needs Israel. Israel takes the heat, the U.S. takes the blame and the EU takes the profits in this business arrangement.

    look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

    by FishOutofWater on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 02:20:45 PM PDT

    •  Whether it's a strongly worded letter or not, (10+ / 0-)

      it was and still is a big story in Israel. Netanyahu apparently tried hard to get them to amend it of delay it, but the EU held firm.

      Netanyahu spent the last several days holding marathon talks with European diplomats and leaders over the measure, reportedly telling them that the timing could harm the chances for restarting peace talks with the Palestinians. President Shimon Peres also sought to intervene.
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/...

      Atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide now exceed 400 parts per million for the first time in human history. #stopgaymarriage

      by Flyswatterbanjo on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 02:35:33 PM PDT

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      •  Israeli govt. acting like the criminal who fears (12+ / 0-)

        sooner or later he might get caught and punished.

        So each time they ask themselves, "is this the One?" They cannot allow themselves to lax, they put all systems on go to try and stop it.

        One thing's for sure, the EU has caught them blind-sided this time. They really thought the EU cannot get even to this point. It reminds me to how Bibi treated Obama during Obama's 1st term, as if there's not chance this guy will be re-elected.

        Now the chickens are flying home to roost from various directions. He's got no foreign minister, a joke of a government full of idiotic rookies and already hated by the public, and a real diplomatic crisis on his hands besides the economic crisis at home.

        It might be just the perfect storm that we've been praying for.

        •  Be careful what you pray for. (5+ / 0-)

          As Israel's demographics lurch ever farther to the right, it's hard to see how any good will come out of a change in government.

          Maybe if that teevee nooz guy hasn't put his foot in his mouth lately?

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:07:00 PM PDT

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          •  Not necessarily change in government. (5+ / 0-)
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            A change in policies is what's needed.

            Might be hard to envision with all that Bibi's stood for. But the guy can fold pretty quickly on pretty much any position he's taken, just to hold on to power. He's got quite the track record on that.

            It's all about his reading of the power game. Once he senses that holding on to the status-quo is a losing position, he'll try something else. And if the other players are ready for this, they can push him much further than he planned to go (which obviously will be the minimum he thinks he can get away with).

            •  Well, maybe, but (6+ / 0-)

              then he'd lose his coalition . . . and it isn't as if Labor and Kadima had significantly different I/P policies than Likud to begin with.

              Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

              by corvo on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:26:51 PM PDT

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              •  He'll get Labor support for peace moves. (2+ / 0-)
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                That much, at least, we can be pretty sure of. More than offsets that clown Bennett's 12 seats.

                If the trajectory continues, Bibi will have to choose very soon between being the right-wing tool under whose watch Israel finally destroyed its solid existential alliance with Western powers, and following a path similar to Begin and Sharon in deciding to return territory despite his base's sentiments.

                He's already gotten one crash in his record on that same dilemma (in 1999). That time he eventually chose to piss off both sides, lost re-election badly, and took a time-out from politics.

                Let's see what he does now. Maybe another gratuitous war? Israeli governments have become fond of that escape in recent years.

                •  You write this (1+ / 0-)
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                  He'll get Labor support for peace moves
                  as if it were good news.  Labor and Likud have virtually identical P policies.

                  Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                  by corvo on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 05:19:20 PM PDT

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                  •  Again, this is beyond partisan platforms. (0+ / 0-)

                    With all due respect to domestic Israeli machinations, the Occupation is an international issue not a domestic one.

                    That's what every prime minister discovers once push comes to shove.

                    The main question prime ministers face is whether they'll be forced (by the sheer weight of reality) to make a move that will need a domestic re-shuffling, support from the opposition, etc.

                    Israel is such a dependent entity that really, no matter how bloated a specific PM's ego is, once push comes to shove they will do things that will shatter their coalition in heartbeat.

                    Check out the track record of this, since Israel started feeding itself massively from the US budget (mid-70's). It is rock solid.

                    Bibi has made somersaults in his 2nd term to avoid reaching that point. His main hope was that Obama gets voted out and the lunatics take over the entire asylum in DC. That didn't happen, and he's beyond borrowed time now.

                    •  much more likely is that (0+ / 0-)

                      Obama is overplaying his hand.

                      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                      by corvo on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 05:27:59 PM PDT

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    •  I dont get this (3+ / 0-)
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      the EU needs Israel
      How?
      •  The EU needs Israel not whining to the US about it (4+ / 0-)
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        poco, marsanges, AoT, Winston Sm1th

        But apparently as the diarist observed, this time around the whining does not produce the automatic US pressure on whomever it was that gave the Israeli government teh sad.

        Other than that, it is really Israel that needs the EU rather than the other way around. Even at the current state of EU economy.

        EU is Israel's largest trading partner. The other way round? Not even close.

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