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  •  I started to say in the previous post, (5+ / 0-)
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    before it go too long, that even the part about racial stereotyping was mockery.  That was the obligatory "DEEP MESSAGE."  Usually, such obligatory deep messages are just another type of writer laziness, but Waters makes great fun of it, both treating it as if it's a real burning concern, and at the same time tossing things in like "Negro Day."  The civil rights movement of the 60s is treated with the same semi-serious snickering as the Corny Collins dance-off.

    •  Point well taken. (6+ / 0-)
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      But that's John Waters: that's been his modus operandi for his entire career.

      Hairspray was one of his first "serious" movies.

      I mean, have you ever seen Pink Flamingos?

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      by Youffraita on Wed Jul 24, 2013 at 09:01:22 PM PDT

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      •  No, I never saw that one. (4+ / 0-)
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        I liked Crybaby and Polyester and Cecil B. Demented and Serial Mom.  Crybaby is a lot like Hairspray.  It's hard to not enjoy a scene like this:

        •  My first Waters film was Pink Flamingos. (4+ / 0-)
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          Hairspray is an order or two of magnitude better.

          Pink Flamingos basically sucked. Do Not Watch Without Serious Chemicals In Your System. (weed works: I smoked a whole joint by myself before going to that one)

          Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

          by Youffraita on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 02:14:12 PM PDT

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          •  Nope, never saw it. (4+ / 0-)
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            I used to, a long time ago, volunteer for a suicide hotline in Orange County.  There was one girl that called frequently, and she was a big fan of Pink Flamingos.  

            You might wonder why somebody would call a suicide hotline to talk about their favorite films.  You've got a point, but that's exactly what they do.  And after every call like that, I had to fill out a form.  "Talked about Pink Flamingos."

            So I think I know that film by heart without ever having seen it.  I think she was trying to talk me into asking her out.  I didn't love my (unpaid) job so much I wouldn't have considered doing something so unethical in order to get laid, because back then I did many unethical things to get laid on a regular basis.  But based on intuition it had the feeling of a VERY BAD IDEA.  

            Another time she called me up to tell me how she had taken a skydiving course, and how hot her instructor was.  "So why did you decide to take a skydiving course?"  "Uh, it sounded fun.  You know, it raises your self-esteem!"  More paperwork to fill out.

            •  Thank you for documenting (2+ / 0-)
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              why I never want to do a suicide hotline.

              But she doesn't sound suicidal, she sounds crazy. NOBODY likes Pink Flamingos that much, not even its auteur.

              Who went on to make actual GOOD movies, once he had the budget to do so.

              Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

              by Youffraita on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:51:50 PM PDT

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      •  i was wondering if anyone would mention (5+ / 0-)

        Pink Flamingo's...

        it's borderline unwatchable, but it contains some things you may never see (or want to see) on film.

        i guess it's over-the-topness is some sort of pull for some people.

        Pink Flamingos is a 1972 American transgressive black comedy exploitation film written, produced, composed, shot, edited, and directed by John Waters. When the film was initially released, it caused a huge degree of controversy due to the wide range of perverse acts performed in explicit detail. It has since become one of the most notorious films ever made and made an underground star of the flamboyant drag queen actor Divine. The film co-stars David Lochary, Mary Vivian Pearce, Mink Stole, Danny Mills, Cookie Mueller, and Edith Massey.

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        by No Exit on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:15:44 AM PDT

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        •  Divine was fabulous. (2+ / 0-)
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          The dog shit eating scene was merely disgusting.

          And what was that thing about the eggs?

          Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

          by Youffraita on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 02:16:05 PM PDT

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