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  •  I guess this Basic Income Guarantee (4+ / 0-)

    something like the "Bürgergeld"(citizen's money) concept that is increasingly gaining traction in Germany?

    I'm all for it.  I was skeptical about whether it would work, but after I went and sat in on a lecture about it and then thought about it some more I see it as the only viable solution to something that is only going to become more pronounced in the future:  massive job destruction due to automation.

    It's going to be hard to do in the U.S., though, as it'll require a tax hike on the very wealthy.

    But until somebody comes up with a better concept, this is probably the only solution to societies changing drastically due to ever-increasing levels of automation and robotization.

    I wish we'd see more diaries at DailyKos discussing trailblazing concepts such as this one.

    Tipped and recced.

     

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 02:08:29 PM PDT

    •  There's a whole petition drive in Europe (2+ / 0-)
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      going on now. If they get enough signatures, it has to be debated by the EU: http://basicincome2013.eu/

      "Imagine all the people, sharing all the world." --John Lennon. Follow me @riseupeconomics

      by RiseUpEconomics on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 02:14:22 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for the link. (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm going to pass that around to all my European friends who understand and support this concept.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 02:43:34 PM PDT

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      •  If it actually got implemented in Europe (0+ / 0-)

        and worked out then maybe in another 150 years people might consider it here.

        As long as we don't have universal nonprofit health care,  free higher education,  paid parental leave,  adequate pensions and all the other things that are taken for granted elsewhere then I think we need to dream smaller.

        We decided to move the center farther to the right by starting the whole debate from a far-right position to begin with. - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay

        by denise b on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 05:01:29 PM PDT

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        •  We don't have a vision (0+ / 0-)

          We don't have all those things in part because we haven't articulated a vision of how the world can be. The right has a simple economic message of cutting taxes for job creators and letting the wealth trickle down. It worked for them for years. It didn't work in the last election, but unfortunately Obama didn't have a competing economic philosophy and we are stuck in the mud along with the economy. With Obama we get a too-small stimulus, a too-small jobs bill, and a promise to work with Republicans to cut Social Security if they just raise taxes a tiny bit.

          A bold, fresh Rise Up Economics that includes a basic income for all along with the education and healthcare you mentioned could rally the base and gain new converts. Nobody was for gay marriage ten years ago. But they swung for the fences with a big bold idea that people rallied around.

          "Imagine all the people, sharing all the world." --John Lennon. Follow me @riseupeconomics

          by RiseUpEconomics on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 05:24:09 PM PDT

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        •  No, we need to dream bigger (2+ / 0-)
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          than we have been dreaming. This concept could unify many competing progressive causes.

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