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  •  Hope for what? (17+ / 0-)

    For Democratic Party political dominance?

    It's hard, in the face of the failure of the leadership of both parties to represent the people, as opposed to corporations and the 0.1% that run them, combined with the downward direction of so many environmental, economic, and social trends.

    Of course, those same 0.1% want us to give up hope, to disengage and just enjoy our entertainment, so that they have an easier time concentrating even more wealth and power unto themselves. Therefore, hope is revolutionary, literally. But it has to be hope with some modicum of a chance of success, someday, as in hope tempered by acknowledgement of history, human tendencies, and our current circumstances.

    Today's close NSA warrantless spying defunding vote actually gave me a little bit of hope.

    Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

    by Simplify on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 01:03:26 AM PDT

    •  getting hope from a loss? Could you be more (25+ / 0-)

      nihilistic? /snark

      What are we fighting for?

      Mandated shopping for healthcare?

      Proper use of kill lists for drone policy?

      Continued pursuit of 'Full Spectrum Dominance' on the planet, in space and in cyberspace?

      A re-inflation of the derivatives market and market to make believe economics?

      Keystone and Fracking as pillars of our energy security?

      Doesn't seem like a very optimistic platform to me...

      Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

      by k9disc on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 03:39:36 AM PDT

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    •  I disagree somewhat with the premise... (7+ / 0-)

      ...of the diarist. The early days of Dkos, in my experience was a time when many progressives were profoundly angry and discouraged. Illegal wars, Bush lies, torture, and on and on. Not to mention the Joe Libermans and democrats of his ilk voting against democrats over and over.

      In those days there were many democrats that profoundly disappointed and angered the community here. But they were not the president. While we could be angry at Bush and hope for a democrat in those days, today we have a democrat who, let's all be honest, is quite low on the progressive scale.

      Those of us perceived as having "lost hope" are, I think, many of the ones who have held firm to our values that made us revile the Bush years so much: wanting war crimes prosecuted; Wall Street criminals punished; economic justice and tax fairness; regulators that regulate; respect for protestors; protection for whistle blowers; protection of Social Security and the safety net; an end to domestic surveillance; appointees who would work for and defend the poor and middle class instead or the rich; a diminished influence by lobbyists; and much more.

      And let's all be honest about this: Candidate Obama promised specifically to follow through and provide for each and everyone of the things above, things which I believe everyone in this community supported back in the day. So how has Obama done? It is in answering this question that I think we, as a community begin to diverge. And that is where losing hope comes in. Because the full functioning of the Executive Branch is a reflection of Obama and his values.

      Yes, he's better than the other guy. Yes, he faces historic obstruction. Yes, candidate Obama was never the real Obama. But for those of us committed to truly progressive values and policies these last 5 years have been awfully disappointing. Obama's economic policies in particular have left tens of millions of people behind for his entire time in office and the lengths he has gone to to protect financial criminals is nothing short of a failure to allow the rule of law to be followed.

      I want better.


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