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  •  worked out so well those other times, too. (7+ / 0-)

    we "helped" the Iraqis, we are "helping" the Afghanis, so why not "help" the Syrians?

    don't always believe what you think

    by claude on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 02:08:56 PM PDT

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    •  Perhaps the proper moral attitude... (3+ / 0-)
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      Paul Bibeau, claude, Sandino that we should keep helping and helping other countries to combat vague or non-existent threats until our armies are all destroyed in the process.  Then we can stop.

      Warren/3-D Print of Warren in 2016!

      by dov12348 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 02:15:24 PM PDT

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    •  Israel and the "Six Days" War, that's why (0+ / 0-)

      Talk about a misleading name. The Six Days War still continues between Israel and Syria. Those two nations have been in an official state of war for over 46 years now.

      So what do you think the reaction in the Arab world would be if the US were to invade Syria? It'd be seen as the US coming to the direct aid of Israel against her Arab foes.

      It's hard enough to push for peace in the region these days. Believe it or not, US leaders are not as stupid as some bloggers insist they are.

      Not to mention the fact (as in factually true) that the US under PBO has not engaged in any combat not authorized by the UN. Any action authorized by the UN needs approval from all five permanent members of the Security Council. That means Russia and China.

      You see Russia approving this anytime soon?

      •  No US combat under PBO without UN authorization? (2+ / 0-)
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        So I'm not going to be able to use Google to find some kind of article about the UN condemning US military action under Obama, huh?

        •  Afghanistan: UN approved (0+ / 0-)

          Libya, UN approved

          Iraq, Not UN approved / Obama became POTUS by opposing it.

          The head of a U.N. team investigating casualties from U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan declared after a secret research trip to the country that the attacks violate Pakistan's sovereignty.
          Another reason your diary is junk is because you do not seem to know the difference between one man's opinion and a formal vote of the UN Security Council.
          •  The guy's pretty high up in the food chain... (2+ / 0-)
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            ... this is his specialty, and he's using terms like "war crimes."


            Also... I don't think actually got UN approval for drone strikes in Pakistan, right? Or Yemen?

            I don't remember the flying killer robot resolution.

            •  UN Security Council (0+ / 0-)

              Look it up. That man is not it.

              Soveriegn nations such as Yemen and Pakistan do not need UN approval to conduct combat operation on their own soil. Hence: sovereign nations.

              I will improve upon my previous language though. The Obama admini has adhered to international law when it comes to combat operation. So yes, it has conducted some operations w/o UN approval when UN approval is not required.

              To return to the case of Syria. It is pretty safe to assume the Assad regime will not ask the US to bomb itself. In which case UN Security council approval would be needed.

              So wake me up when Russia and China are talking about the need to intervene in Syria.

              •  No. It's not clear they've adhered to int'l law. (3+ / 0-)

                The UN is investigating the legality of drone strikes.

                "About 20 or 30 strikes – selected as representative of different types of attacks – will be studied to assess the extent of any civilian casualties, the identity of militants targeted and the legality of strikes in countries where the UN has not formally recognised there is a conflict."


                Pakistan has not asked us to bomb it. Pakistan is protesting this stuff, and trying to get the UN involved. So... Even though your point is moot, it's also wrong.

                And that's a tough trick to pull off.

    •  No oil or minerals? (0+ / 0-)

      That's why I think we can limit our engagement to terrorism-by-proxy and remote-controlled war crimes.

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