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  •  And what would be the party affiliation (28+ / 0-)

    of those pushing austerity onto Chicago public schools?  One wonders . . .

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    by corvo on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 07:07:50 PM PDT

    •  No much to wonder about around here. (12+ / 0-)

      Illinois Democrats should be ashamed. If the Illinois GOP gets their act together and doesn't run some nut bag candidates, they'll be a huge change in the political landscape of this state.

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      by michael in chicago on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 07:26:07 PM PDT

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    •  everyone (2+ / 0-)
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      Schools are funded through property taxes and CPS gets some help from the state on pensions, although neither the city or the state has contributed much since 1995!

      There is plenty of blame to go around.

      One of the issues is that the union negotiates on behalf of teachers.   In a single party system like Chicago, who negotiates on behalf of taxpayers?

      •  correct me if I'm wrong, but (7+ / 0-)

        ideally, doesn't the city negotiate on behalf of the taxpayers?

        I mean, really, who elects the elected officials?

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 07:56:49 PM PDT

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      •  But in Chicago, everyone is a Democrat. (2+ / 0-)
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        by dinotrac on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 08:08:02 PM PDT

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        •  in which case (3+ / 0-)

          Rahm doesn't have to care what the people of Chicago want.

          Check and mate.

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 08:25:39 PM PDT

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          •  That's a silly statement, unless you believe (0+ / 0-)

            that Rahm doesn't care about keeping the Mayor's office.

            The real election is the Democratic primary, but there are always candidates for the job.

            And, if things got bad enough, who knows what doors might be opened?

            LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

            by dinotrac on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 02:47:31 AM PDT

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            •  All he has to do is keep the machine happy. (2+ / 0-)

              Then he runs more or less opposed.

              And seeing as he's a big wheel in the machine . . .

              Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

              by corvo on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 03:35:02 AM PDT

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            •  Rahm obviously figures he can stay mayor (1+ / 0-)
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              the same way he got elected mayor the first time: a shit-ton of yard signs and key endorsements. Only this time, as the incumbent, he'll have yet another advantage: no one will have the guts to run against him.

              That's the Chicago way -- turning every election into a self-fulfilling prophecy of more of the same.

              "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

              by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 07:56:25 AM PDT

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      •  Corvo has answered your comment about (6+ / 0-)

        taxpayer representation.  I'll speak to your point about school funding.
         There wouldn't be a problem with pensions or necessary classroom/teacher salary funding if business paid its proper share of taxes at all levels of government.  

        Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

        by hawkseye on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 01:04:23 AM PDT

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        •  Thank you (4+ / 0-)

          Unless  I am just misreading, I feel more and more that progressives here (and elsewhere) are buying into the blame the teachers (public employees meme).   Sadly, it has been clear to me that this administration has not been all that supportive of public education, public employees.  Arne Duncan and his love of charters was in the inner circle with Rahm and I fear President Obama has let them take the lead on education "reform" which is nuspeak for blame the teachers' unions, undo them and give education over to privatization via charters.

          I believe if corporations and businesses were paying their fair share, funding education would not be a problem.  But for now, states have to basically bribe corporates to come to their states, subsidize them and do not DARE ask them to care about the community, their workers, let alone the education of the workers'  children.

          We all are screwed if we continue to elect nudems  who basically are no different than the Wall Street loving, corporations adoring repubs.

          “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

          by Jjc2006 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 05:08:34 AM PDT

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          •  You are absolutely right! (0+ / 0-)

            Obama and friends decided Michele Rhee and other charter school lovers must be correct.  Fortunately, working quietly behind the scenes, the National Education Association has steered Duncan, etc, away from Rhee's programs.  Duncan's reform plan didn't work in Chicago nor in Oakland, CA, but Obama likes him and keeps him on---something like his relationship with Summers.

            Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

            by hawkseye on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 12:00:49 PM PDT

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      •  Negotiations (1+ / 0-)
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        One of the issues is that the union negotiates on behalf of teachers.   In a single party system like Chicago, who negotiates on behalf of taxpayers?
        The school board is charged with negotiating on behalf of taxpayers. And CPS school board is unelected and largely a rubber stamp for the mayor, and made up primarily of millionaires business leaders.

        Teachers unions negotiate on behalf of not only teachers, but also their students. Working conditions for teachers are classroom conditions for students. The number of students in a class, the class environment, the number of hours of art, music, recess and core subjects are all issues dealt with during the last negotiation.

        Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein

        by michael in chicago on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 09:00:32 AM PDT

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