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  •  I think an open primary system of a certain style (4+ / 0-)

    would be okay. I think someone told me Montana does it like this. I'm thinking each ballot would be the same, and would have both party's primaries on the ballot. But you could only vote in one. You could pick and choose which primary you want to vote in by each race.

    ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

    by James Allen on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 09:17:21 AM PDT

    •  Wisconsin also has that. (1+ / 0-)
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      It doesn't fix the radicalization problem. If the GOP has a GOP-leaning district the Teahadists will put up a crazy. If the district is strongly-enough GOP leaning the Teahadist wins even if most people don't like him because there will be enough moderate Republicans who won't vote for the Democrat.

      In the California primary, there are several from each party running in the primary. Maybe the Democrats get shut out, but a moderate Republican gets a shot at the Teahadist.

      As long as Boehner refuses to approach this rationally, there is no current advantage to having a moderate Republican in the House instead of a crazy, but in normal times moderate Republicans can be allies of Democrats on important issues that need to be addressed.

      Americans can make our country better.

      by freelunch on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 10:05:47 AM PDT

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    •  States without party registration (2+ / 0-)
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      almost all do that I believe. In North Carolina we have semi-open primaries. If you're a registered D or R you vote in the respective primary, but if you're unaffiliated you can choose which one, so a lot of swing voters in areas that aren't historically dixiecrat like suburban Raleigh have stayed unaffiliated.

      •  I hate that (0+ / 0-)

        because it makes being a member of a party a disadvantage. But I also hate the CA/WA style system of open primaries.

        ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

        by James Allen on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 11:07:24 AM PDT

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    •  The difference between that system and this one... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...is that each party has one primary winner who still gets to be on the general-election ballot.

      In the system you describe, the general-election ballot still gives voters a choice between a Democratic candidate, a Republican candidate, and various  third-party or independent candidates.

      The system you describe is much more likely to result in a representative who represents the will of the people of that district.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 10:22:38 AM PDT

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    •  They tried that here in WA (0+ / 0-)

      when the "jungle primary" was initially tossed a decade or so ago. There was a huge outcry where voters wailed, "but I'll be forced to identify with a party in my mind!" Having to blacken a circle R or D, with no way to ever publicly identify a voter's choice was traumatizing for them; so, we have top two now.

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