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  •  Unless you count possible schizophrenia as (2+ / 0-)
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    churchylafemme, PinHole

    a side effect of smoking weed...

    •  It's not. There is some evidence which suggests (10+ / 0-)

      that people who are going to become schizophrenic may do so earlier if they use cannabis.

      There's also substantial evidence that schizophrenics often self medicate with cannabis, just as they do with alcohol, nicotine,  and a wide range of other substances.

      Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

      by JesseCW on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 11:24:05 AM PDT

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      •  If you can say that definitively, you know more (2+ / 0-)
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        than most studies I've read.

        The evidence suggests that cannabis is associated with an increased risk of psychosis when it is used frequently. Whether cannabis can trigger a primary psychotic disorder that would not have otherwise occurred is unclear. However, in most individuals who use cannabis, psychosis does not develop, which suggests that the increased risk must be related to other vulnerability factors (genetics, frequency, or age of onset of cannabis misuse). - See more at: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/...
        http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/...

        And my point is anyway the same. Earlier schizophrenia as the result of cannabis use could definitely result in an ER visit.

        And the takeaway? If you have a family history of schizophrenia/bipolar disorder, avoid weed, especially before your prefrontal lobe is completely hardwired (at about age 26).

      •  I self medicated with it (5+ / 0-)

        because it helped keep the hallucinations at bay and let me function well enough to hold down a job generally.

        I haven't had any in over 7 months and I am struggling with getting my medications balanced to stop the hallucinations - when I know full well that a bowl is all I need to balance it all out.

        But I live in Louisiana with paranoid anti pot parents and no friends - so there's no weed to be had.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 01:25:05 PM PDT

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        •  go hang out at a bar for a few days (1+ / 0-)
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          I know it's no fun, but...    

          Hang out at a bar.  Buy a few drinks for some folks, and you'll find that weed in almost no time.   Louisiana is drowning in the stuff.

        •  Once you already have schizophrenia or (1+ / 0-)
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          schizoaffective disorder the jury is out as to whether the cannabinoids help or hurt. My feeling is that if you're working with a psych doc who will work with that, give it a try...but let the doc know by all means (and I sure would try to get stable without the weed complicating things first). And most of the high functioning schizophrenics in a recent study were almost all on meds and off weed. Obviously, YMMV. But I don't think there are many people who would advise a young person with a family history of schizophrenia or who was prodromal to go out and smoke a bunch of weed.

          •  I didn't smoke until I was an adult (1+ / 0-)
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            and I was already years into symptoms by then - some theories are just full of shit.

            I've spent the last 7 months trying to get stable without it.  Guess what - it's not working.  I'm 43 years old, I'm hardly "young" or going to "go out and smoke a bunch of weed" - and I'm the one who has to live in here - not you.

            And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

            by Mortifyd on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 05:46:19 PM PDT

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            •  I'm sorry if you thought my advice was directed (2+ / 0-)
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              at you; it wasn't. It was specifically directed at young people who are not schizophrenic but who have some of the risk factors associated with developing schizophrenia. To them, I think most advice is "don't smoke weed". Once you already have schizophrenia, there are some studies that say that marijuana can be helpful; as I said, the jury is out on that. My heart goes out to you; I am so sorry you are afflicted with this, in all of its torturous complexity.

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