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  •  Little sister ran between brother and target. (3+ / 0-)
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    LilithGardener, splashy, WakeUpNeo

    Tragic accident.

    No one could have foreseen a four year old not understanding, the line of fire.

    I must have told her a 1,000 times stay out of the line of fire.

    We really need to run to the store and get more ammo and some more targets.

    •  Honor system for gun safety - It's not working (4+ / 0-)
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      Even a CCW permit holder was surprised that his [obviously] poorly constructed practice range posed a risk of death to his neighbors' kids playing hundreds of yards away.

      It appears that very few CCW permit holders have a plan for what they will do in the event that they ever have to use their firearm for self defense, let alone how they will handle the aftermath of accidentally shooting their neighbor's child.

      A cool video: http://wwmt.com/...

      I'm starting to see these kinds of unintentional shootings as evidence that DIY shooting ranges at home need to be licensed and subject to inspection. The honor system for implementing gun safety is just not working.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 09:20:02 AM PDT

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      •  This one wowed me from across the world ... (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm currently in Hong Kong, and I almost forgot to look at this week's tallies. But this one just beggars belief.

        Again, just like that incident in Jarvisville, WV, a few weeks back (elderly couple ran out into the night shooting away like Robert Redford and Paul Newman at the end of Butch Cassidy because they thought they heard a prowler, only for one of the wife's shots to hit the nearby house in which their grandkids lived, killing her 11-year-old grandson), the bullet did not "go awry". It went where it was aimed when the trigger was pulled.

        That this happened not during a frantic response to a perceived crime in progress but marksmanship training is very disturbing. Never mind the "misaimed" shot. If this guy can't even take basic precautions when setting up his own shooting range, he has no business having a concealed-carry permit. How did he get past the radar? Are we going to realize just what people think they can do, what they will do, when we let them carry so readily? Because it's not just about what people do with the guns when they carry.

        I also wonder what would happen if the girls' parents had had a weapon in the house and decided to invoke "Stand Your Ground" (assuming Michigan has it). if that had been the case and it had been my kids, I would have started returning fire (and if the neighbor, whose wife told the paper was pretty shaken up about it, did it again after this in incident, you'd have all the justification you'd need for firing away and taking his life regardless of how responsibly he was doing it).

        •  This is the kernel (3+ / 0-)
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          the bullet did not "go awry". It went where it was aimed when the trigger was pulled.
          Like "accidental gunshot" the term "stray bullet" is a misnomer. You are exactly right. All the shooting victims have one thing in common, they were either in the line of fire (and the muzzle was pointed directly at them), or they were in the cone of fire, (and were hit by a ricochet or a bullet fragment).  

          If rural gun owners, such as this man, were charged appropriately, chuarges would include reckless endangerment, they would lose their RKBA for a good long time, pay a hefty fine, and they would be be booked and have to spend at least a night in jail before bail could be posted.

          The fact that the man was surprised, means that he was putting those kids at risk every time he was practicing. He just never got caught before.

          I can' rec, because your last paragraph is ridiculous and totally wrong. I also don't believe you would do that.

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Mon Aug 05, 2013 at 10:13:37 AM PDT

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          •  You're right (1+ / 0-)
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            LilithGardener

            I should have clarified that I would have wanted to do that, but of course I know better.

            Trouble is, given that same set of real facts and hypotheticals, too many people would just do it anyway.

            •  Indeed, we see examples every day of people (1+ / 0-)
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              using firearms in ways that they likely never intended to use them.

              Like this 32 yr old guy in Brooklyn, Thomas Dunikowski, who thought he was using his illegal AR15 for self defense, when he expressed the rage of his neighborhood, and shot at some drunk, angry teens in the street...

              Now he's facing attempted murder and other charges. The first trial ended in a hung jury, last month, and the second trial is going through pre-trial hearings.

              When contemplating using a firearm for self defense, no one expects that it is they, who will ruin their own life, and ruin the lives of their own wife and children, because of a rashly deployed firearm.

              Curious readers can find links in my recent comments, or google Brooklyn AR15 shooting trial Thomas Dunikowski.

              "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

              by LilithGardener on Mon Aug 05, 2013 at 05:52:31 PM PDT

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        •  You know reading through all these tallies . . . (4+ / 0-)

          something comes to mind.

          Most police officers never fire their gun in the line of duty.  These people have fired their "weapons" more than someone who has actually has training and knows how to use the weapon.

    •  Question unasked (5+ / 0-)

      Why was the boy doing target shooting in an area where his little sister was running around unsupervised?

      •  2nd Amendment! 2nd Amendment! n/t (0+ / 0-)

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Mon Aug 05, 2013 at 12:57:12 PM PDT

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