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  •  I'd say that a comparison to the Arab Spring is (7+ / 0-)

    disenguous.  The US Media Conglomerate Apperatus has much more power and presence than the state media of the smaller, arabic countries that were involved.  That, and a reliable news source in those countries -was- available -- Al Jezeera, which has, in my experience, has done a far better job of actual reportage than our yapping-head-based-media does.

    When you're arguing against a RWer in the US, they can refer to 'authority figures' and their statements on news programs to back up their argument.  Actually referring them to first or second order sources that they'd have to read and interpret tends to be useless.

    •  And that's exactly why (14+ / 0-)

      Al Jezeera will be effectively shut out from the US market.  Look at how Time Warner and other cable providers took Current off their cable line ups before the ink was dry on the sale to Al Jezeera.  

      Ditto how CNN International, which has much better news than regular, RW loving CNN does, is only available on upper tier at a higher cost.  

      The TM fears those who produce actual, factual news because it exposes the crapola they put out.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Sat Jul 27, 2013 at 03:13:47 PM PDT

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      •  Seems like this place kind of does too. (2+ / 0-)
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        My comment somewhere right around here somewhere speaks to it.

        Where are the other media sources that dKos should be caucusing or producing content with? I see no other organizations featured on the front page.

        Why not? You know? We should be grooming these guys.

        They've got CATO, AEI, CEI, and we've got dKos, FDL, and a couple of nice media entities.

        I tell you, we could smoke CATO and AEI in content creation and meme generation. I have no doubt about it. We are smarter then them and don't have to lie.

        But it takes organization.

        jan4insight's comment about her SoMe presence prompted my comment because it's like pissing up Niagra Falls - it's not very effective, and teh people there riding the Maid of the Mist and looking at the pretty waterfall don't appreciate having their experience sullied.

        Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

        by k9disc on Sat Jul 27, 2013 at 03:27:55 PM PDT

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        •  Until dKos can invade your home through (11+ / 0-)

          push-based media -- that is, the boob-tube -- its ability to reach anyone is rather limited.  Furthermore, dKos -- The Great Orange Satan -- is implicitely an untrustworthy news source to most right-wingers; the fact that an assertation is made on dKos is de facto proof for them that it's false.  CATO and the AEI have enough money and contacts to not only get their crap in the papers and on the air but to saturate them; Kos doesn't.

          Not that I don't take anything on Daily Kos without a grain of salt -- god knows that progressives have their own biases and will indeed slant news stories.  However, a good story on Kos contains substantiation in the form of links to more concrete sources than "some guy on the internet said so," and, OMG, I actually tend to research these before I say something, particularly when the story is rather outrageous.  But then, that's my reaction to just about any story I read from any media: if a source is available for more concrete information, go and check it out.

          ...Of course, by doing this, I put myself in the maybe 5-10% of the population who actually gives enough of a shit and isn't too lazy to do that, much less those who regard Fox News as a Source of Holy Truths.

          •  Right, totally agree - push is a key - which (3+ / 0-)
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            means that there must be more than politics. Has to branch out into wider culture.

            You are totally correct in that the strength of this place is in the linkage & social vetting that goes on here.

            I think ubiquity is probably a better term than Push at this point in time, but your point is totally valid.

            I think that we are entering a stage in media where push is kind of a relative term - YouTube has HUGE potential, as does internet radio, but finding it, pulling it in is a bit tough and kind of requires political passion.

            There's all kind of latent talent lying around this place and the Left of Center in general - TONS Of it.

            Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

            by k9disc on Sat Jul 27, 2013 at 05:20:43 PM PDT

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          •  Proof on a personal level (4+ / 0-)

            My RW brother and his friends were preaching to me about the Constitution. When I brought up the actual text of the document, they were dumfounded. They had never read it!

            •  Perfectly said (2+ / 0-)
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              They get told what to believe and believe what they're told.  Unlike rational adults they're not skeptical.  I keep wondering if these are the guys the Nigerian Prince is targeting.

              There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

              by Puddytat on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 11:56:50 AM PDT

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