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  •  I don't understand how you can arrive at the (1+ / 0-)
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    conclusion that you don't share any significant common ground with libertarians. Here, let's try something.

    Do you support marriage equality?

    Do you oppose mass incarceration of minorities for non-violent crime?

    Do you oppose corporate influence on government?

    Do you oppose mass deportation?

    Do you favor drug policy reform?

    Do you think crony capitalism is a bad idea?

    If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, then congratulations, you share significant common ground with libertarians.

    •  In practice the Republican libertarian (1+ / 0-)
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      politicians don't give much support to those issues.

      •  Oh no doubt. (1+ / 0-)
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        If you only meant Republicans who claim some type of libertarian philosophy, I totally agree.

        Personally, I don't consider them libertarians. It seems to me that being a Republican is an immediate disqualification in and of itself.

        "Real" libertarians find the Republican party offensive and disgusting. Those types of libertarians aren't supporting things like marriage equality just because it's a part of some party platform. Rather, they believe in equal rights for gay people because equality is a pillar of their belief system.

        In that context, I'm sure you see plenty of common ground. Well, at least I hope :)

        •  This discussion has gotten me very interested (1+ / 0-)
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          in the process that has occurred with the systematic branding of the term libertarian by right wing Republicans. It appears that they made extensive use of the writings of Ayn Rand in their campaign. Libertarian was a term that she rejected in her lifetime, but she has been transformed into a guiding spirit. This has been organized and supported by some major corporate interests. I'm doing some more research on it and will likely write a diary about it.

          My original intent with this diary was to focus on the Republicans who bill themselves as libertarian.  

          •  It's interesting to note how recent the adoption (2+ / 0-)
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            of this term by the right actually is:

            Recently, a bewildering and seemingly new phenomenon has burst upon the public consciousness, “right-wing libertarianism.” While earlier forms of the movement received brief and scornful attention by professional “extremist”-baiting liberals, present attention is, almost miraculously for veterans of the movement, serious and respectful.
            This is from 1971.
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              America!! Freedom!!

              Tell that to the wage slaves at the bottom of the business hierarchy who have no voice in how they live most of their lives under Ayn Randian social Darwinism.

              Right wing free market zealots want to enshrine wage slavery as some sort of liberty. Complete, utter bullshit.

              Orwell, who had, to a great degree, anarchist, libertarian socialist leanings, and who was strongly anti-authoritarian, would vomit.

              "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

              by ZhenRen on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 11:21:24 AM PDT

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