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  •  I don't have to take this as a what if... (1+ / 0-)
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    tons of the girls I knew right after high school were Madonna and Cindy Lauper fans and they did dress like that, underwear on the outside.

    I knew why, no need to go reaching for the giant fishing nets.

    Like I said  I don't really like the low-pants thing, and yes, I've seen them go pretty low, but that's kids being kids to me.

    Here's the thing that probably doesn't come through entirely in this diary.  I'm a Metal Head.  That's why I was in a meeting with members of Living Colour - it was a Black Rock Coalition meeting on the campus of UCLA in the early 90's. I saw through the 90's how hard rock and metal fans dressed, how they used fashion to express their love of the music and the bands of the time but also to make a statement expressing their freedom of choice.

    I may not have always agreed with all their choices, but I don't begrudge their right to have made them.  What I saw after that period was an age of conformity, without style or imagination born of a backlash against the previous age.  I'd be more than happy to stick the next person I see in a flannel shirt and mohair sweater into a straight-jacket, but I don't think most people would be sympathetic.

    As far as I'm concern all our fashion hit the toilet in 1993 and hasn't really recovered or changed since.  I don't dig the entire wearing slippers with socks thing outdoors.  It's hideous.  I don't understand when or why men showing their hairy calves became a hot thing. To me IT ALL Sucks.

    Sagging pants are just a tip of the crapberg, but hey - "Freedom".

    •  Do you think it would be okay for kids to walk (0+ / 0-)

      around a grocery store with no clothes on at all? I don't.

      How about dressed in nothing but a speedo like we see on old men at the beach? It's perfectly legal, but I don't want to see it in the grocery store.

      Somewhere there's a line. Maybe it's not the same for everyone, but I don't want to see anybody's butt (as in pants below their butt cheeks) while I'm standing in the checkout line. I consider it to be disrespecting ME.

      The last time I saw something really disrespectful, another woman in the line called attention to it some way. The young man turned to her, pointed to his crotch and said, "I've got something for you right here, out in the parking lot."

      But, hey, freedom. I guess anything's okay because I'm free to stay home and order my groceries online for pickup.

      •  We aren't even talking about no clothes (0+ / 0-)

        or sanitary conditions.  Every pair of shorts I've ever seen, whether I wanted to or not, were clean.  If they weren't you'd have a point, but they (usually) are.

        "It's disrespecting ME", sorry but you don't have the right to dictate some one elses wardrobe.  Your rights end at the tip of your nose, not their butt crack.

        Now, when it comes to lewd remarks or come-ons that's different.  That's when they've invaded your space, but just standing their not looking the way you want them to doesn't cut it IMO, as long - as I said- we're not dealing with sanitary or health safety, but asthetics.

        Imagine if you though some girl was showing too much cleavage and just decided to yank her top up because it was disrespecting you?  

        Such a short hop from puritanism we may have come.

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