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  •  Unfortunately, the economic ruling class sees (22+ / 0-)

    slavery as a valid economic model.  It may not be as blatant as "official" slavery, but the results are the same.  Many work and live in substandard conditions for the excessive benefit of the few.

    “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

    by ahumbleopinion on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 07:00:31 AM PDT

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    •  Not exactly "slavery" but "peonage" (25+ / 0-)

      Slavery due to being in debt and having to work to avoid ruination. Work at anything versus not working at all.

      Nitpick over - totally agree with your perspective.

      •  "Right to work" is code for ... (8+ / 0-)

        ... "peonage." No nitpick here, that's exactly the right word.  

        I would tip you, but the man took away my tips.

        by Tortmaster on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 09:01:16 AM PDT

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      •  As long as we're nitpicking... (2+ / 0-)
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        Slavery would require them to at least keep their employees fed and healthy.

        The 1% and their GOP supporters want to return to "indentured servitude".  This keeps employees completely dependent on their jobs just to survive.  I just read an article about a 20 yr MacDonalds employee who was making $8.25/hr, and wasn't even getting 40 hrs a week.

        Probably to no-one's surprise, it's the same model that big companies like WalMart and Staples use on their suppliers to get the lowest possible cost on goods.  If 1300 people die in a factory collapse, well that's just the cost of doing business.  

        It's also the model used by human traffickers, where at least it's largely agreed to be wrong.

        I'd also argue it's used to a slightly lesser degree by the credit card companies.  People who can only afford to make the minimum payment quickly become indentured by their crushing debt load.

        •  Actully when there was slavery in the South (0+ / 0-)

          The slaves were often expected to farm to feed themselves, and build their housing out of whatever they could scrounge up.

          So, really, owners were not expected to keep the slaves fed and healthy. Some were fairly decent, for slave owners, and did so, but there was no expectation that they would.

          The house slaves were generally taken care of, to keep the owners healthy and to look better. They also were more likely to be related to the owners, being the offspring of the white male owners with  black slave girls/women, so they got better treatment.

          Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

          by splashy on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 11:04:14 AM PDT

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    •  yes, but so do the working class (0+ / 0-)

      and that is the problem for the working class

      i grew up working class.  the entire approach to work is to find someone to work for.  then you rely on them to provide you with work to do.  you treat them as your betters.  you grumble about how they think they are better than you.  but you put up with it, because you don't want to be responsible for providing your own work.  that's terrifying.

      i know it's going to be blasphemy for me to say this here, but the working class are just as much to blame for the income inequality gap and the business class.  yes, they get taken advantage of by the business class, but it's not like they can't do anything about it.  they just won't.  they could become business class themselves, but they don't want to do that.  they want to be the cog in the machine.  they don't want to have to be responsible for the whole machine.  

      oh, but, no, no, everyone can't become business class.  there's too much competition.  bullshit.  it happens all the time.  it's called small business and it used to be the backbone of this country.  until all the working class decided that they could have more shit if they bought from the big corporations instead of the slightly more expensive local businesses.  and now here we are.  with a massive gap between the working class and the business class and it's as much the working class' fault as the business class.  

      Americans are fucking greedy.  that's the bottom line.  yeah, we have to buy and sell shit to have an economy, but we don't have to own EVERYTHING.  and it's from top to bottom in this country.  and yes, it was the business class who played the pipe, but we all fucking followed to the edge of the economic cliff.

      •  You are talking about personality types (0+ / 0-)

        Some people just aren't temperamentally suited to start businesses. They can't handle it. They need security or they can't function. They can't help who they are, so putting them down for not being able to cope with starting a business isn't helping.

        Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

        by splashy on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 11:07:05 AM PDT

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