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  •  Incoherent nonsense (7+ / 0-)

    File under Cold Fusion.

    Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

    by Mokurai on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 04:50:15 AM PDT

    •  7 Academics Agree (1+ / 0-)
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      Hello Mokurai, boy that was a quick response. I'm guessing you did not take the time to read the link. Unfortunately that would make you a pseudoskeptic.

      •  Or it's old news (1+ / 0-)
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        Rossi has been making his claim for a couple years now, and informed people have been watching it all along. Mokurai might already be familiar with everything you had to say, as well as the linked article, long before you posted.

        I've known about this scam for at least a year now, don't think anything really new has come out in the last few weeks.

      •  More nonsense (0+ / 0-)

        Insulting, patronizing, ad hominem nonsense. If you try it again, I will HR you and call for you to be HRed on sight from then on, in accordance with site policy on trollery, which includes science denial. Yes, you can be a troll, and we can HR you as a troll, even if you believe your trollery.

        You guessed wrong. Reading the account confirmed that this is not a scientific experiment or real demonstration. Unfortunately you remain a dupe, along with your 7 Academics.

        A panel of scientists once concluded that Harry Houdini was an unconscious medium who only thought he was debunking mediums by replicating their tricks using stage magicianship.

        The Amazing Randi has similarly debunked many claims of psychic power by replicating the spoon-bending and other tricks, but a few credulous academics continue to believe that they know how to prevent stage magicians from working their sleight of hand, and that an assortment of con artists are real psychics.

        Even though "LENR" is not a supposed psychic phenomenon, the problem of stage-managed sleight-of-hand is exactly the same in these black box demonstrations. Investigators are not allowed to look inside, and are not given critical information about the supposed process, so that nobody can attempt to duplicate it.

        Defkalion Demonstrates LENR Reactor

        Pretends to demonstrate, that is.

        Forbes Contributor Canned After Saying Something Mildly Positive About LENR

        This is borderline CT (0+ / 0-)

        In fact, Forbes is quite positive about renewables, and has been for some time.

        Solar Grid Parity Comes to Spain

        Low Carbon Economies And Smart Grids: Watch Out For China

        Also in fact, LENR is not a business proposition, and is not even confirmed to exist. It is widely considered pseudo-science by scientists. It has no place in Forbes. renews attention to widely disparaged “low-energy nuclear reactions”

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Fri Jul 26, 2013 at 11:07:28 AM EDT

        Huge Clean Energy Breakthrough Game Changer

        From another of my comments:

        It is disappointing that human credulity is such that the topic could make a comeback, but not particularly surprising. We have ample precedent, such as the Dean Drive, beloved of Science Fiction editor John W. Campbell.


          Oh, the Dean Machine, the Dean Machine,
            You put it right in a submarine,
            And it flies so high that it can't be seen—
            The wonderful, wonderful Dean Machine!
        Science Fiction author Damon Knight
        I have had a lifelong interest in scientific crankery and quackery. I have a degree in math with courses in chemistry and physics. I started to follow Cold Fusion on the day of the Fleischmann and Pons press release and conference on their initial nonsense. I have studied the quantum mechanics of fusion.

        There are two actual forms of Cold Fusion:

        • muon-catalyzed fusion cannot be used for power because muons require too much energy to generate and then decay too quickly or stick to alpha particles and are lost from the process
        • Pyroelectric fusion, which can be used as a source of neutrons, but not for power generation. It consumes more than it generates.

        Bubble Fusion was another supposed form of cold fusion that turns out not to work.

        Please don't bother us about this nonsense any more. When you want to talk about something on which there are data, feel free.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 06:56:56 PM PDT

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