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  •  I was in Atlanta not too long ago. (3+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, rl en france, Calamity Jean

    Frankly, I thought back to what a friend said back in the 80s, when the Sunbelt was booming and the Rust Belt was, well, the Rust Belt.

    "Everything's working for them now because everything is new -- wait until they have to start keeping up their infrastructure."

    Another thing I noticed: Most of the buildings seem all from the late 80s. It was like they built up for the olympics and stopped building at that point.

    I think they're on a downward slope, frankly, and I never thought that about the sun belt cities before.

    •  One more thing. (3+ / 0-)
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      Stude Dude, pelagicray, rl en france

      Saw an ad on Atlanta TV about some kind of career opportunity -- real estate, I think -- and it had some actress playing a person who went through the program and now is very successful.

      Odd thing that struck me was she talked about her measures of success -- new house, cars, vacations, and also mentioned "now I can afford to send my children to private school."

      Just struck me as odd that private school is such a wealth motivator down there -- must mean public schools suck or, at least, are perceived to suck?

      •  White flight into private schools left many public (3+ / 0-)

        systems a ghetto of underfunded and re-segregated institutions. From an old comment I made about this:

        One of my hypotheses about why the TP/GOP is so strong in the South, supported by some long term experience,  observations and some long ago look at the numbers, is that in that region particularly there was mass white flight into private church schools to avoid integration. The churches most active in setting up such schools tended to be the most "conservative" and that usually meant fundamentalist Evangelical.

        They became American madrassas, refusing to teach mainstream science because that conflicted with belief. Generations of white Southerners, many Westerners and no few elsewhere have gotten their complete "education" in such sealed environments.

        During my last frequent visits to the deep South small cities and towns were full of church schools, often fundamentalist American madrassas, geared back in the integration years to capture that white flight from public education. In one small city I knew pretty well it was uncommon to find a white student, other than those in poverty themselves, not going to such a church school except in the "suburbs"—meaning some new and exclusive sections of MacMansions and a gated community out by the golf course. That district had a nearly all white school.

        The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

        by pelagicray on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 06:08:16 AM PDT

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    •  Atlanta has a huge problem (2+ / 0-)
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      rl en france, Calamity Jean

      with suburban/urban sprawl, which makes public transportation a nightmare to implement (there is none), and if you don't have a car, you don't have a lot of opportunity to look for or work at a better job.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 06:23:26 AM PDT

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