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  •  how Bush and Cheney set up private military (17+ / 0-)

    reading the incredible book by Scahill "Dirty Wars"

    In the first 100 pages shows how Cheney and Rumsfeld set up the JSOC, and their own intelligence that was outside oversight of the legislative branch and was able to violate domestic laws and international laws - an army and intelligence branch to be deployed anywhere in the world without even the agreement of a foreign government

    these special ops reported to the executive branch

    the regular military and CIA were aghast

    why didn't Colin Powell quit right away???

    Wilkerson continues to be a source of what went on

    the constitution says that wars are the decision of the legislative branch

    foreign governments view military operations - capture and kill - within their borders (invasion you say?) as an act of war

    didn't realize HOW it was pulled off, nor how extensive it was

    the movie Dirty Wars starts off with a remote village in Afghanistan where the special ops, probably JSOC, came into the village in the middle of the night and killed over 20 people including 2 pregnant women - and they operated outside the scope of the military command in the area

    someone decided that there  were terrorists there and they came into a party and shot it up

    given this, it is no wonder that the NSA operated outside the law and is spying on the whole world

    will be hard to put this story back into the closet

    the SUPERPOWER used to be able to do anything it wanted

    •  Corporate 'Superpowers' still do... (8+ / 0-)

      ... anything they damned well please - even as they are surgically attached to a US Treasury teat - like, for instance, Booz Allen Hamilton which is working for the NSA....

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 06:32:25 AM PDT

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    •  The roots of such end-run militarism (5+ / 0-)

      unfortunately go back to the founding, ironically to Hamilton and Burr, both of whom aggressively pushed for a strong military to be led by an equally strong executive, with minimal congressional oversight, to be used to protect and expand US interests abroad, which in those days meant not just Latin America and the Caribbean, but most of the North American continent.

      The armies raised by Hamilton under Washington and Adams to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion and potentially fight France were the earliest examples of such unaccountable and arguably unconstitutional militarism.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 07:12:35 AM PDT

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