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  •  That is a great comment, Australian2 (22+ / 0-)

    I have been trying (in vain) to convince folks that the democratic landslide victory in 2006 and 2008, the former resulting in retaking the house and senate, the later expanding those majorities and electing our first African-American President, were mainly fueled not by folks like me who always vote.  It was many, many people who have liberal values but were turned off by politics.  Of course that isn't the sole reason, but it greatly helped.  Howard Dean's 50 state strategy got people involved in local and state elections as well as the national ones.

    But that was long ago.  The 50-state strategy has been watered down by the establishment Democrats.  The betrayal of core liberal values by these same Democrats re-introduced the cynicism that helped the republicans in 2010 by virtue of those voters staying home mainly for the reasons you mentioned in your very good comment.

    I have a conspiracy theory that I believe the establishment Democrats PREFER to be in the minority.  If they are in the majority then we expect results.  If they are in the minority they can just squawk about how awful the Republicans are but don't actually have to advance the causes the liberals support, even basic liberal values like economic fairness, reining in executive power, ending stupid wars, not blowing up innocent children with drones, and on and on.

    It will be the same in 2014.  

    The thing that amazes me is how effective liberals can be in getting good election results, as the last election showed, but how quickly they refuse hold those who they elect accountable to deliver results.  I HATE the position of the tea-baggers, but I will say this about them, they stay engaged after the elections.

    Every politician, liberal or conservative, should have a healthy fear of the electorate.  Conservative politicians do, in most cases, fear their base.  Establishment Democrats despise their base.  That has got to change.  I am not talking about fringe positions, that is the difference between liberals and the baggers.  I am talking about basic, long-standing liberal values like those I mentioned above.  I don't think it makes me a "purity I-didn't-get-my-pony firebagger" because I believe we need to pursue economic fairness and to end our crazy, counterproductive wars, both covert and overt.

    To the NSA douchebag who is reading this: "Those who give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    by Indiana Bob on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 08:16:51 AM PDT

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