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  •  So, what reforms do you want? (1+ / 0-)
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    Lying eyes

    This question has been asked numerous times above by numerous posters, but there hasn't been an answer.  There has been one poster -- one -- who suggests an annual spending review.  Okay, although I think annual audits may already be required, if that poster is calling for more robust, thorough, and transparent audits, then that's certainly a good start to ensure compliance with the law, but what actual reforms in the programs do people want?

    Because all I've seen so far is "defund the NSA," "shut it all down," etc., which are neither realistic or productive.

    I understand the many concerns expressed about the legislative process that you find clumsy and wholly unproductive, but what is it that you want by way of concrete reforms?

    A more robust IG/Auditor specifically dedicated to constant monitoring of the NSA's programs and reporting to Congress?  More Congressional control over appointments to the FISA Court?  More Congressional oversight of the issuance of FISA warrants (again, maybe through a more robust IG/Auditor)?

    I certainly hear a lot of complaining, both about the NSA's programs and the reform process, but I hear very little by way of any concrete proposals for additional safeguards/oversight.

    •  For starters, no blanket warrants, (6+ / 0-)

      A warrant with a person's name on it for everything collected. And collected means gathered and saved, not future use. No carved-out exceptions to the Fourth Amendment by secret courts. No expansion of law intent by secret courts. Clarification by law of what gathered data and metadata may and may not be used for.

      What about the climate cliff?

      by wayoutinthestix on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 11:15:04 AM PDT

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      •  But are all of those realistic or even practical? (0+ / 0-)

        I'm with you on the general principles you espouse, but I have concerns about the applicability of some of them.  Are you saying doing away with FISA completely?  Are you saying there is NEVER a need for secret warrants?   And on what legal basis does the 4th Amendment apply to all metadata?

      •  Don't bother with this poster (4+ / 0-)

        He's not interested in regulating NSA spying and will conveniently find problems with any solution you my propose.

        Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort. - Voltaire
        Don't trust anyone over 84414 - BentLiberal

        by BentLiberal on Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 01:48:40 PM PDT

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