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• ##### Pls remember that 'THREE hops'(5+ / 0-)

is all they've admitted to -- yet.  Nothing restricts NSA from more than '3 hops'.

In a text/experimental setting, 1 phone number x '3 hops' = over 38K people.  (link available but not handy, sorry.)

• ##### Yeah 38K for each "terrorist" they're investigatin(4+ / 0-)
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CroneWit, maryabein, JesseCW, rlochow

and "terrorist" is an interesting word. They can define it in all sorts of interesting ways.

Ou sont les neigedens d'antan?

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• ##### Just as they can "probable cause," (2+ / 0-)
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JesseCW, SouthernLiberalinMD

even more disturbingly.

• ##### Three hops --> 2.5 million get swept up(6+ / 0-)

with the assumption that Americans have an average of 40 contacts calculated out to 2.5 million people getting swept into the dragnet in one example that I saw.

If the average person calls 40 unique people, three-hop analysis could allow the government to mine the records of 2.5 million Americans when investigating one suspected terrorist.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/...

"Justice is a commodity"

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• ##### You made a common error.(1+ / 0-)
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onionjim

You forgot about the 0th hop -- that is, the contacts that the person under investigation made.  So it's 40 (his contacts) * 40 (first hop/degree of seperation) * 40 (second hop) * 40 (third hop) = 2,560,000.

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