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  •  This belongs on the REC LIST. (2+ / 0-)
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    cotterperson, commonmass

    How is it there are no rec list diaries about this?  

    •  I dunno (5+ / 0-)

      I thought it would hit the rec list. My one on his atheism comments did. I only care because I think there is a strong anti-religion sentiment on DailyKOS and it's good to engage in dialogue.

      •  anti catholic sentiment (1+ / 0-)
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        commonmass

        interestingly. For some reason, specifically catholicism appears to this observer to ignite the ire of Kossacks. I dont know why that is. Not the utilitarian follies of protestants/evangelists - who get laughed at for sure but not treated with anything like the anticatholic zeal one can see here. Not the outrageous misanthropy of some strands of islam - although that should really not be  seen as a foreign religion in the US. I could speculate that below that lies recognition of a powerful enemy. It certainly is not the same as the church-burning passion of the old anarchists: that was a struggle amongst equals. I think that below the intolerance for anything catholic here lies an outright desire for progressive domination. But I dont think this site is up for self reflection on that.

        •  It's the sex-abuse (1+ / 0-)
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          commonmass

          Many people have formed a simple metonymy between Catholicism=pedophilia. It's a mistake.

          •  It is a major mistake, and as a former Roman (0+ / 0-)

            Catholic, it's one that really bothers me. I made a calculated and very, very difficult decision to leave the Roman Catholic Church. I had already some significant Roman Catholic higher education in theology when I made that decision.

            I'm not anti-Catholic (and as an Anglican, I would be considered an "Anglo-Catholic") but some people are totally unhinged when it comes to any religion here.

            Again, I think what the Holy Father said (and what he did in having that press conference) was epic. But it must be read in context. Many people without Catholic educations people don't understand that.

            I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

            by commonmass on Tue Jul 30, 2013 at 08:08:05 AM PDT

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        •  The anarchists (1+ / 0-)
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          who burned churches in Spain during the civil war had reason: The Church sided with the fascists, the monarchs, the landowners and against the oppressed peasantry. The fascists used Church bell towers as positions from which to snipe at the defenders of the Republic.

          Easy to ignore how the church appeared to people being overthrown by a ruthless, fascist coup.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Tue Jul 30, 2013 at 10:38:12 AM PDT

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