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  •  What's Lemon's sexuality have to do... (10+ / 0-)

    with anything? I didn't say anything about his sexuality.  Does him being gay make a difference to you? Not me.
    My thing is that as a successful black man, he seems to have forgotten where he came from in a big, big way. Climbed up there, forgot about those he left behind and pulled up the ladder to the point of looking at us the same way he's still looked at by those who don't see his success as much as they see another n****r.  I think he has a responsibility that corresponds to the national stage he's on and do consider his alliance with the beliefs and BS of Bill O'Reilly to be a complete and utter sell out.  Apparently you don't. I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree with you.

    •  I'm not sure how Don has forgotten where (1+ / 0-)
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      he has come from and hope that someone could clarify that for me.

      Now while you respectfully disagree with me, you don't with him and that sir makes you an equal to the person you are railing against.  

      Blackness is not defined by alligiance to a monolithic set of beliefs or a certain newscaster.  It certainly isn't defined by soundbites.  

      Like his sexuality, his blackness can't be taken away by those who don't like what he says.  That is what his sexuality has to do with it.  It doesn't make a difference in the argument aside from that fact.

      Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

      by mim5677 on Tue Jul 30, 2013 at 01:08:47 PM PDT

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      •  When you get so much wrong and... (3+ / 0-)
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        regurgitate much of the same BS about the community where you came from in a feckless, clumsy, insensitive manner I think it's fair to say he's forgotten. Lemon would fit in more at O'Reilly's country club these days. You're hung up on soundbites, this is not about soundbites... it's about Lemon's clearly stated bass ackwards beliefs about black America, which jibe with O'Reilly's. Lemon's lack of "Blackness," at least in this case, can be defined by who Lemon aligned himself with.

        •  You got that out of a 7 minute segment? (0+ / 0-)

          Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

          by mim5677 on Tue Jul 30, 2013 at 01:34:42 PM PDT

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          •  Hmmm.... (0+ / 0-)

            Mim5677, you  seem to have taken this diary rather personally.  Starting to think you may be Don Lemon. Ah, well. Better you than me.

            •  I have taken it personally not that there is (0+ / 0-)

              anything wrong with that.  

              If African-Americans are going to lament Bill O'Reilly being a racist and taking their humanity and by agreeing with him Don Lemon is also doing the same thing, then I certainly expect that we wouldn't do the exact same thing to Don.

              It is....incorrect to suggest that I am Don Lemon because I don't think that he should be attacked as a soulless, sellout, who is not a part of the black community, who would be happy being white (as if whiteness is a negative), for running a six minute segment when there is no evidence he has ever said anything controversial towards African-Americans in the past?

              So don't "hmmm" me as if I am saying something that couldn't make any sense.  

              My point has been recognized as being clear and made in a respectful way and is unrelated to the actual criticisms of Don Lemon and rather points at the desire for people in this diary, including the diarist to strip Don Lemon of his blackness and even worse to assign him to whiteness (as punishment), when there is in fact nothing wrong with being white, or black, or green.  

              You want to talk about it? Lets talk about it.  Don't throw in little quips that have nothing to do with the point I am making.  

              Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

              by mim5677 on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 04:33:46 AM PDT

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              •  Mim: You Continue to mischaracterize what I said. (0+ / 0-)

                In no way am I saying Don Lemon is no longer black. I'm saying he's turned his back on the black community and thrown in with a fraternity of racists.  And you do seem to be taking this personally and want to infuse Lemon's sexuality into the discussion.  Weird.

                Anyway, here's what I wrote:

                Whether you know it or not Don, when you jump on O’Reilly’s racist bandwagon, you come across as a clueless sock puppet…a sell-out, who has lost touch not only with the black community, but with your own soul, as well.

                And there’s no balance in your scapegoating…just a bunch of tainted, misguided darts thrown at black folks and that’s just plain wrong Don—especially when those darts are thrown by somebody who used to be one of us and should know better.

                In neither instance did I say Don Lemon is no longer black or that I'm somehow taking away his "blackness."  That would be absurd.  You talk about "blackness" like it's just another color in a box of crayons.  Heck by that definition, even Clarence Thomas and Allen West are physically black--there's not enough Deluxe Nadinola in the world to change that.  So stop it.

                My point is Lemon's heart and mind appear to have been affected and hijacked to the point of no longer identifying with or understanding the community he grew up so much that he's lost touch enough to feel comfortable aiding and abetting racists who regularly impugn a whole group of people who just happen to be the same "color" as Lemon is.  Otherwise, why use many of the stale talking points they use to denigrate black Americans. He's in the other camp now and is proving cover for them based on their own racists lies and half-truths.  IMO, that's being a sell out. And it was more than just a 7-minute segment on CNN.  He went on The View and doubled down on that racist garbage.

                His heart is in what he said and I measure people more by what's in the content of their hearts than by the amount of melanin in their body.  Through his words, Lemon has shown where his heart is and it sure as hell isn't with the black community at this point.  

                I did not remove his "blackness" or kick him out of the black community.  He did those things HIMSELF...and quite voluntarily...much like Clarence Thomas, Jesse Lee Peterson and Larry Elder.

                Please stop applying your own biases to what I wrote.  Further, since you really seem to feel very strongly about defending Lemon why not write your own diary about it?

                •  I'll take your argument at face value but when (0+ / 0-)

                  you said "used to be one of us" what does that mean?

                  The reason I am asking is because earlier in that sentence you mentioned that he was throwing misguided darts...

                  And there’s no balance in your scapegoating…just a bunch of tainted, misguided darts thrown at black folks and that’s just plain wrong Don—especially when those darts are thrown by somebody who used to be one of us and should know better.
                  So if you are telling me that I was incorrect in making the connection between the "black folks" Don was throwing darts at and him not being "one of us." anymore, I can accept that.

                  It's not like I can't read.  

                  Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

                  by mim5677 on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 07:46:57 AM PDT

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                  •  Simply means... (0+ / 0-)

                    when somebody attacks my village with falsehoods in accordance with the tired/trite memes of racists, they're no longer part of it.  Don left on his own to run in a different circle.  I didn't kick him out, don't have that power.  Can't take his blackness away, don't have that power.  He's black and is always going to be black.  But at a time of their convenience the O'Reillys of the world Lemon has aligned himself with are going kick him to the curb, because shared ideology aside, they still see him as a black n****r.  Sad, but 100% true.

                    •  You made the right choice (0+ / 0-)

                      in clarifying your statement.

                      Although you are still being dramatic about the implications not of what he said but who he agreed with, it's a good thing that you recognized what you said was an improper way to address a difference in reasoning.  

                      Who ya gonna shoot wit dat homie, you'd rather blast an original instead of a phony, true macaroni, you don't even know me, and why does your gun say n****z only?

                      by mim5677 on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 11:19:56 AM PDT

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