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    oldpotsmuggler

    Srebrenica and Zepa and the Tutsis of Rwanda and many other millions thank something in the universe that 25 words or less weren't the reason they were slaughtered without global concern -- ok, maybe your first sentence.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Tue Jul 30, 2013 at 06:58:06 PM PDT

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    •  How many millions that died in (3+ / 0-)
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      Chi, blueoasis, Sunspots

      Iraq and World War I and Vietnam and many, many, many other wars "for the good cause" are there out there that would like to share their thanks?

      The lesson seems obvious to me.  We do more damage than we do good, we make more enemies than we make friends, and when we believe most that we are being altruistic and fighting for a good cause, we are usually making some big donor rich.

      •  What about WWII? (0+ / 0-)

        I'm from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party

        by voicemail on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 06:48:57 AM PDT

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        •  yes, that's the exception, (0+ / 0-)

          although, we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, as I recall, and the Nazis were allies with the Japanese and declared war on us simultaneously with our declaring war on Japan.  And our allies against Japan were at war with Germany.  So I'm not sure the situation applies.

          Unless you were to suggest that we should have got into World War II earlier.  That's a hypothetical situation that we can't be sure would have been beneficial for anybody, so I can't see it as a very useful counter-argument.  

          If a war is necessary because it impacts us, we'll find out one way or the other.  A war that is based on the brilliant hypothesizing of some guys with ulterior motives about how to improve other countries -- those are bad wars.  I renounce the whole concept of it.

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